Thread: small BBW

I found on one razor i used yellow slurry it did'nt give a good shaving edge i have always used bbw slurry yellow water. I have just honed two razors with milky slurry on my yellow and diluted down to plain water all in all about 100 laps 30 with slurry. The razors were shaving good i have just tested them both and they actualy shaved better and i would say smoother i was expecting the slurry to round the edge a little and not be as sharp. May be when i first used my yellow the slurry was to dense. When i spoke to steve at invisable he stands by the bbw is the same as the yellow the only differance is the yellow cuts quiker with out all the ins and outs i think hes right.

I have tried setting the bevel on beat up razors with the coticule and slurry. I have tried with a few different stones and a few different razors. I will say IME it can be done but for me it takes too long. If that was all I had then I would use the coticule for that purpose. Having the Shapton 1&2K pro, the Norton 1k and the DMT 1200 I prefer the speed of cutting I get with those stones in that order of choice for which I use.

Bart i have heard this from you that is why i called your idea.i didn't know anyone else has done this progression.which is

setting bevel with coticule with slurry then going to BBW WITH slurry and dilute it slowly to make edge more sharp(this one i heart from you) after this going back again to belgian coticule without slurry just use water.
I mean this whole process .
Now i never said you can't set bevel with coticule even i said some coticule will act same as 4000k.Of course you can set bevel with coticule but it takes forever.
I have no doubts about your honing ability i was just testing method you are saying.I never ever had or said Bart you are or anyone else bad honer etc.
All this conversation was to make sure how BBW effects on razor.
My confusion was you are doing Pyramid with belgian combo(in some way).That is why i was trying to understand this method.that is all.I have and will never had bad feeling or anything else toward anyone .this is only learning in my part and didn't mean to hurt anyone;s feelings.


Sham

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

Bart i have heard this from you that is why i called your idea.i didn't know anyone else has done this progression.which is

setting bevel with coticule with slurry then going to BBW WITH slurry and dilute it slowly to make edge more sharp(this one i heart from you) after this going back again to belgian coticule without slurry just use water.
I mean this whole process .
Now i never said you can't set bevel with coticule even i said some coticule will act same as 4000k.Of course you can set bevel with coticule but it takes forever.
I have no doubts about your honing ability i was just testing method you are saying.I never ever had or said Bart you are or anyone else bad honer etc.
All this conversation was to make sure how BBW effects on razor.
My confusion was you are doing Pyramid with belgian combo(in some way).That is why i was trying to understand this method.that is all.I have and will never had bad feeling or anything else toward anyone .this is only learning in my part and didn't mean to hurt anyone;s feelings.


Sham

Sham, I wasn't offended in any way, and I sure didn't mean to come across that way in my post. We both speak another language than English at home, I think that makes it often difficult to catch, or formulate, the tone of a post correctly. Nothing we can do about that.
I was merely trying to point out that it is a tried and trued method, that goes back a long way.
I am not saying that it is THE way to hone a razor. But it is A way.
In my post, I was hoping to provide you with the confidence that it really does work, while at the same time paying tribute to the guys that earn the credit for seing the difference between a Coticule with slurry and a Blue with slurry. Josh and David both realized very well that they needed the Blue with slurry for refining and the Yellow with water for finishing.
Setting a bevel on a Coticule with slurry really doesn't take forever.
I use it on seriously convexed bevels, new Dovo's with an odd bevel angle, razors with microchips, etc. I almost always do a downstroke on a glass jar, before doing anything else. This removes all residual shave-ability of an edge. No razor shaves arm hair after that. So when it shaves arm hair again along the entire edge, I know I have completed the bevel. (It only takes popping a few single hairs on my arm, so there's no need for bald arm patches) Anyway, if I get the feeling, after 15 minutes on the Coticule with slurry, that I am getting nowhere, I jump down to a DMT600. But I hardly ever need to do that. Most razors take less than 20 minutes. Some take less than 5 minutes. I never jump down to my DMT1200 because there's just too little speed difference.

About doing a "pyramid" on the Coticule, I don't look upon it that way. In fact I look at a Coticule as a combination hone. You have one hone with slurry, which cuts like a bevel-setter but leaves a better polish than any other bevel setter. And you have another hone with water, which is a very slow finisher.

Bart.