Thread: Coticule and what i think

I have dmt 4k 8k etc plus my blue and yellow i brought yellow first because i read you could achieve a very fine edge so i thought great one hone will do the lot I honed on yellow with slurry tpt felt great shave was bearly shavable i could'nt understand why i then did more research and found 100 laps on water made the razor shavable. then i got my self a blue and must say honing on slurry on blue straight to strop is shave ready. i keep trying with yellow slurry differant coticules but there's no dout about it the coticule with water is great for finishing and refreshing a razor.

The chap i brought my barbers shop from him and his dad before him did shaving back in there day he shown me how to sharpen and strop a razor 10 years ago and he had an old dished black slated based and yellowish top which i now no has coticule he just called it a natural stone and said all they used was very fine stones he said they sent them out to be regrowned if they needed them and he told me when i asked him they only used water i mentioned slurry and he did'nt no what i was talking about. I also mentioned pasted strop and he said yes we did and he also recalls treating leather strop with olive oil now and then. He also said it was 50 years ago since he had performed a shave he is now 78 and still cutting hair one day a week for me on my day off.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

About Coticules
I have a feeling most people thinks I hate coticules.
Let me tell you my position about coticules.
Coticule is a great stone if you know when to use it and what is your purpose .
Do I think you can use coticule and get edge which you would be able to shave your face answer is YES.
Would you get greatest edge available OUT THERE by using coticule answer is NO
Can you get better edge then coticule to shave your face answer is Yes.
Now can you use Coticule set bevel -yes but will take enormous time to compare dmt 1200k or Norton 1k/4/ etc.
You can set final edge using coticule answer is yes -But you will get better edges by using Escher’s , thuringians, Nakayama etc.
Todays date I think we have more alternative better options available then just Coticule.

I wanted just let my position be clear to rest of you.
Have a good day.
Respectfully
Sham.

So, where would you say the coticle tops out at? What is the limit of its use and where does another stone surpass it? I know I can get a sharper edge without much effort from quite a few different hones than I can off of a coticle. But, the coticle is the smoothest I have found so far. It can be used in combination with other hones leaving me with a sharp and smooth edge. I haven't tried any hones over 12k, and there are quite a few out there, so I don't know how high of a grit I can use in combination with it. Is there another hone, or finishing combination, that will give me an edge that is both sharper and smoother than what can be achieved on the coticle? Are the high end grits, like the 30k, smoother than a coticle/would an edge finished on a 30k benefit from a coticle?

Originally Posted by crazycliff200843

So, where would you say the coticle tops out at? ?

if you have dmt 8000 3micron use before coticule.
if you have norton 8k you can use coticule after norton.

Originally Posted by crazycliff200843

What is the limit of its use and where does another stone surpass it?

if you don't have lower grit hones then after coticule you can use pastes chro2 etc in paddle strop to get better edge.

Originally Posted by crazycliff200843

But, the coticle is the smoothest I have found so far. It can be used in combination with other hones leaving me with a sharp and smooth edge. I haven't tried any hones over 12k, and there are quite a few out there, so I don't know how high of a grit I can use in combination with it. Is there another hone, or finishing combination, that will give me an edge that is both sharper and smoother than what can be achieved on the coticle? Are the high end grits, like the 30k, smoother than a coticle/would an edge finished on a 30k benefit from a coticle?

answer to your question is yes you can use thuringin,escher or nakayama or any higher grit hone get better and smoother edge. you don't have to go to 30k shapton.
that stones i know and i am sure there is more then what i know.
You need to just try it yourself and see.
it is great someone is trying to learn another hones.good luck
hope this helps you

People seem to get irritated when the Escher is brought up following the coticule. Maybe because of they tend to be more expensive and not readily available ? Whatever, IME the edge will get sharper and retain the smoothness with a yellow/green or a blue/green Escher. With the high grit synthetics you can get sharper but I'm not sure if the smoothness remains at the same level. One of these days I have to bite the bullet and get the "right" Nakayama and see what all the fuss is about.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

One of these days I have to bite the bullet and get the "right" Nakayama and see what all the fuss is about.

you don't have to suffer a lot i have it and selling it if you want let me know.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

One of these days I have to bite the bullet and get the "right" Nakayama and see what all the fuss is about.

Jimmy the day you will buy Nakayama ( i don't have for sale i was joking) you will send a HUGE EMAIL TO ME AND say

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH OR MUCHO CRACIOSE GOD KNOWS THIS ONE

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

Jimmy the day you will buy Nakayama ( i don't have for sale i was joking) you will send a HUGE EMAIL TO ME AND say

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH OR MUCHO CRACIOSE GOD KNOWS THIS ONE

You're feeding his HAD! How can he resist now

Originally Posted by pjrage

You're feeding his HAD! How can he resist now

The spirit is willing but the wallet is weak.