Thread: Coticule and Naniwa 12k

I am currently using coticule and naniwa 12k, but I am wondering if I am really gaining much from the naniwa?

When I was using norton 4k/8k, I could definitely tell a difference. With coticule, i'm not so sure...


Has anyone played around with the combination?

Makes me want to buy an escher or thuringian

Let me see if I have this right Ben???

Before you were using a progressive system going from 4k - 8k - 12k ???

Now you are using a Coticule with a varied slurry - water and then going to the Naniwa 12k ????

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Let me see if I have this right Ben???

Before you were using a progressive system going from 4k - 8k - 12k ???

Now you are using a Coticule with a varied slurry - water and then going to the Naniwa 12k ????

sorry. should have given more detail.

I am basically using this: A simple honing method with DMT-E, Belgian Blue Whetstone and Coticule - Straight Razor Place Wiki

I have been experimenting with coticule -> naniwa and naniwa->coticule; And using pastes/not using pastes.

Yes please Slartibartfast clear a little bit.
what you do exactly
progression until to end including pastes etc. thank you

Btw... Nothing is "broken" per se. I am just wondering if i would be better off with something other than the naniwa 12k after the coticule.

Here are the details of the last 2 razors i honed.

Honing Blog

Here is the thing at first you were doing a perfect progression 4-8-12

Or sharpener / polisher / finisher

When you switched you blurred the lines...

You are going Bevel setter / S L O W sharpener (BBW) / Varied stone (Coticule) / Finisher

I think you are taking the edge all over the place....

/28/2009 - Crown & Sword
Tape- 2 layers
Dmt 600
Dmt 1200
BBW - 100 strokes w/ slurry then dillute with water every 20 strokes
Coticule w/ water - 100 strokes
Naniwa 12k - 10 strokes
100 Linen/100 Leather
CrO paste - 10 strokes
30 Linen/60 Leather
Posted by blogs are us at 4:04 AM 0 comments
6/29/2009 - Simmons Barber Pet
Tape: 1 layer
DMT 1200 - 20 strokes
BBW - 100 Strokes with slurrry then dilutted every 10 strokes
Naniwa 12k - 10 strokes
Coticule w/ water - 100 strokes
100 Linen/100 Leather
Coticule w/ water - 30 Strokes
30 linen/60 leather
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Ok on 1 st one you come until 12k you are fine .
then problem starts.
you don't have to go to leather strop now.
go to diamond paste 10-20
next go to
chro 10-20
Then you can go to leather strop.

Now for second option too much mix.

I would say you can stop on Naniwa and move to pastes
or you can do same after coticule
if you don't have diamond paste then use chro2 but a little more laps example 60 etc until you get satisfied edge.
then go to strop.
hope this helps.
by the way early message we post (broken link)same time i didn't see your post until now.

Looking at your blog it appears that you have a fixed regimen, i.e. a certain amount of strokes on each of the grits ? As opposed to doing some strokes and then TPT or popping hair off of the arm to test the edge ? I try to test the edge every so many strokes so that I don't go past it. When I feel it is sharp enough I move up the ladder.

I try and go with the admonition that Lynn uses,"Less is more". I don't worry that much about whether the previous scratch pattern is completely removed as long as the scratches are uniform and the edge is sharp. Good on you for keeping a record of your honing. I got that idea but have been terribly inconsistent in practicing it.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Looking at your blog it appears that you have a fixed regimen, i.e. a certain amount of strokes on each of the grits ? As opposed to doing some strokes and then TPT or popping hair off of the arm to test the edge ? I try to test the edge every so many strokes so that I don't go past it. When I feel it is sharp enough I move up the ladder.

I try and go with the admonition that Lynn uses,"Less is more". I don't worry that much about whether the previous scratch pattern is completely removed as long as the scratches are uniform and the edge is sharp. Good on you for keeping a record of your honing. I got that idea but have been terribly inconsistent in practicing it.

Yeah, i finally started keeping a record because my memory is horrible. Couldnt remember when something was last honed or if i taped or not.

I use TPT, but for me after a certain point i cant tell the difference. i do 50 strokes on the bbw w/ slurry, test, then do another 50 if needed.

arm/leg hair is what i do after the bbw/slurry stage. Only way "I" can tell how it is progressing.

Thanks.

It sounds like you need some blind testing! Let me send you a few razors that need honing - do some naniwa last and some coticule last, then send them back to me but don't tell me what they were finished on

I won't even charge you for the exercise!