Thread: seting bevel with dmt1200/1k naniwa

YIKES!!!! I didn't know we were talking about the UK. I am in Arizona.

Ray

Originally Posted by gary haywood

When i hone on the 1k i hone and hone till the point where its just not making any progress and i no that is not normal is your 1k quite porous because mine is not it holds water on surface realy well i carn't even get it to shave arm hair. What i think i will do is dull this old razor and set bevel on my 3k and see if that works if it does then i no there is somthing wrong somwhere i will try.

All the ones I have used have held water and I mainly re spray it every 3-4 razors as I am knocking water off with X strokes. How many different razors have you tried on the stone?? I have never shaved hair off a 1K so can't help you there. I find the TPT the optimal test for me. Maybe I'll give the other a little test as well.

Maybe you can check where you got it and see if they will look at it to see if OK or if a replacement is in order. Could be the stone. I have not seen a bad 1K, but could always be.

Thanks,

Lynn

I'm using tpt and it aint getting there not like dmt tpt on that hone gets there i used it halve way through using 1k naniwa and straight away i noticed the differance but also noticed going from 1k naniwa to 3k tpt starts to improve dramaticly and 5k also feel the differance.

The trouble is my thumbs a getting a bit roughed up throught tpt and i loose the smooth skin if you no what i mean

I have 2 ebay razors on there way i use 1k naniwa and see how i go. Bin doing pyramids with 5k 8k i find pyramids with 3k 8k are working better for me seems closer to 4k 8k norton and also i find these naniwas put a realy nice mirror edge on razor and leave much finer scratches also the hones now they are feeling smoother the more i use them getting to like them more with use just hope the 1k works on my ebays .

Originally Posted by gary haywood

I have 2 ebay razors on there way i use 1k naniwa and see how i go. Bin doing pyramids with 5k 8k i find pyramids with 3k 8k are working better for me seems closer to 4k 8k norton and also i find these naniwas put a realy nice mirror edge on razor and leave much finer scratches also the hones now they are feeling smoother the more i use them getting to like them more with use just hope the 1k works on my ebays .

Gary, try 3k/5k and it is even better. Polish with the 8k. Speaking of Naniwa Superstones here. They live up to their name IME.

Gary,

I just got my 1k yesterday, so I'm still new to its ways, but here's what I've noticed so far:

TPT for me is not as grabby as off a D8E, but the stone doesn't leave those deep scratch marks either. That might be the reason--the edge might "feel" sharper off a DMT because of the toothier edge. It polishes & sharpens up beautifully on the 5k. I'm using Japanese strokes (a little easier for me than circles) followed by light x-strokes on both and it works great. Might have to do a few heel/toe only strokes on a smiling blade, but it's not tricky.

Mine lapped fast (much faster than my new 12K), but the very ends (not the edges; those are fine) might need a bit more (they felt harsh, while the rest of the hone felt smooth). Probably just needs more lapping. Shave test today w/ a finickey blade was very nice!

Originally Posted by PA23-250

Gary,

I just got my 1k yesterday, so I'm still new to its ways, but here's what I've noticed so far:

TPT for me is not as grabby as off a D8E, but the stone doesn't leave those deep scratch marks either. That might be the reason--the edge might "feel" sharper off a DMT because of the toothier edge. It polishes & sharpens up beautifully on the 5k. I'm using Japanese strokes (a little easier for me than circles) followed by light x-strokes on both and it works great. Might have to do a few heel/toe only strokes on a smiling blade, but it's not tricky.

Mine lapped fast (much faster than my new 12K), but the very ends (not the edges; those are fine) might need a bit more (they felt harsh, while the rest of the hone felt smooth). Probably just needs more lapping. Shave test today w/ a finickey blade was very nice!

I spoke to steve at invisable edge whom i sold me naniwas he was very helpful and said what you are saying in that dmt leaves a choppier edge which explain that grabing on tpt he said the 1k he found tpt felt toaly differant but once you move on 5k then 8k the edge will feel keener and that is what i have found . As for laping i've gave all my nani a good going over and they are with use now feeling very smooth with good feed back. They realy do leave a mirror bevel too even 1k seems to polish a little.

I am finding 3kna is more like 4k norton and 5kna seems more like 8k norton.Any one else find this?

Originally Posted by gary haywood

I am finding 3kna is more like 4k norton and 5kna seems more like 8k norton.Any one else find this?

Yes, it seems that way to me too.