Thread: The Two Worst Honing Videos EVAR!

^^^^^^ the secret zeepk honing technique finally revealed!



also thank you Jim the videos were great and you the first person who's voice sounded like I thought it would.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Thanks Jim for the demonstration. I haven't gotten into the Japanese razors ..... yet. I have been tempted but I love the western style and well sooner or later I'll probably dip my foot in the water and when I do your vid will come in handy.

My only criticism is that you, like Sham, make a video with a pair of hands and no face to put with it. You've seen the vids where there is at least one shot of the honers features so we can put a face with the name.

Nah, I can't afford a new camera, spent all my money on strops!

Originally Posted by Kees

Not bad at all! You're too modest!

What's the slurry stone? A Nagura or a Nakayama?

Ermmmm...ummmm...a... Nagura? Dunno, my barber gave it to me with the hone, but he was almost reluctant to do it. He said it was harder to get than the stone itself...Which surprised me!

Originally Posted by jendeindustries

Jim - could you post pictures of both finished sides of the blade? Thanks!

I'll do so, but I'm not sure if I can get a good one of the polished "haze".

Originally Posted by kevint

Good show. The sound on the omote was a light pressure sound, but the stone was cutting nicely. cool stone.

Now it looked like you had a bit of struggling with the nagura while showing us a large, flat, white face> why not use that part on the stone?

I do use both sides, but I with either one I have to really dig in because this stone and this nagura are HARD. You have to use a lot of pressure to get the kind of slurry I was shown--he actually took a pair of scissors and GOUGED the nagura, so it would slurry up better.

Originally Posted by kevint

my new beef: with all the talk of conserving material; is not rotating the stone to use the entire surface evenly. So start doing that.

Sorry sir! Should I do that between each round of ten?

Originally Posted by kevint

People Jim explained the terminology in the video. Using it makes things clear. Learn, Love it and use it please.

I hope it helped a little, at least, with some of the terminology. Like I said, I'm no expert, but I did pay attention and I think the basics are there.

Love it Jim, I thought it was a cool video. Now I just need to get a japanese straight, natural hone and a 90k strop one of these days...

Originally Posted by Del1r1um

Love it Jim, I thought it was a cool video. Now I just need to get a japanese straight, natural hone and a 90k strop one of these days...

For great Justice!!!!

Originally Posted by JimR

Nah, I can't afford a new camera, spent all my money on strops!

Yeah, and you spent all my money on strops too.....



Lynn

Originally Posted by JimR

I do use both sides, but I with either one I have to really dig in because this stone and this nagura are HARD. You have to use a lot of pressure to get the kind of slurry I was shown--he actually took a pair of scissors and GOUGED the nagura, so it would slurry up better.


Sorry sir! Should I do that between each round of ten?

I don't really like to have rules about such things. As long as we don't forget, or forget to check later; the work, the tools, working with the tools, experience will guide us.

The stones can be harder or softer, long and narrow or short- nearly square. Doing it right is simply doing it and getting the intended result.


Alex Gilmore was telling me about kaolin, the mineral from which porcelain is made. It is white and very hard. The slurry from it seems not to do any damage to fine edges.

I'll be tuning in to see what you learn about stropping practices.

I'm going to try Nathan's brick / milk slurry method for about two weeks on the same razor. This will give my armhairs time to grow back, get a manicure and I will probably end up with the first 1/8 wedge in history.

Jerry
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Originally Posted by kevint

I don't really like to have rules about such things. As long as we don't forget, or forget to check later; the work, the tools, working with the tools, experience will guide us.

The stones can be harder or softer, long and narrow or short- nearly square. Doing it right is simply doing it and getting the intended result.


Alex Gilmore was telling me about kaolin, the mineral from which porcelain is made. It is white and very hard. The slurry from it seems not to do any damage to fine edges.

I'll be tuning in to see what you learn about stropping practices.

Yeah, the thing I have to remember about what my barber teaches me is, Japanese culture can be very, very picky about tools and rules.

A hone that is labeled for straight razors, and NOT kamisori, is not to be used for kamisori--end of story. Even if the only difference is size or shape...it's a straight razor hone, not a kamisori hone. (And yes, before you ask, this hone was sold as such. I have seen a couple of other hones that are specifically labeled as straight razor hones, and they have all been of a similar size/shape...I don't know why).

I of course agree, do what works. It just takes so long to figure that out...sometimes I get impatient and want the comfort of a set rule.

Originally Posted by Lynn

Yeah, and you spent all my money on strops too.....



Lynn

Hey now! Don't blame me, all I did was show the darned thing! I haven't even talked about how amazing the stropping feel is, how the rough horsehide doesn't have draw, it has a loving embrace on the blade.