Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Senior Member khaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Ithaca NY
    Posts
    1,752
    Thanked: 160

    Default Good idea/bad idea?

    So as I was honing the other day, I was not able to rinse my swarf off- well... was too lazy to walk to the bathroom and didn't want to dump it on the floor so...- anyways... I let my stones swarf. And obviously water evaporated, but the steel stayed there so it got thicker and thicker. And I honestly feel it made each stone "higher" in grit. Does this sound right? Almost as if when I started a 1k was a 1k, but as it started swarfing up the steel filled in gaps and made it more like a 1.5k. Does this sound accurate? Or did I magically just improve my honing technique a lot in one session? I dunno. It happened across the 1k 3k and 5k nani I use. Obviously I can't tell on my naturals because they also develop slurry.

  2. #2
    Senior Member blabbermouth JimmyHAD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    32,564
    Thanked: 11042

    Default

    Sounds to me like you were sort of creating slurry. I do mine at the kitchen sink with a spray bottle to refresh the stone and a faucet to rinse it. IMO it is not good for the stone or for the razor to do the honing with less water but I must admit I haven't tried it so mine is only an impression.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

  3. #3
    Senior Member khaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Ithaca NY
    Posts
    1,752
    Thanked: 160

    Default

    I keep adding water as it evaporates- but since I can't rinse it the iron stays, so the concentration increases is what I'm saying.

  4. #4
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    St. Paul, MN, USA
    Posts
    2,401
    Thanked: 335

    Default

    At the current rate of finesse, how long do you think it will take until your stone gets to about half a mu? I never realized that one could grow a barber's hone. I think you're on to something, hopefully the patent is applied for.


  5. #5
    At this point in time... gssixgun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    North Idaho Redoubt
    Posts
    26,962
    Thanked: 13226
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    It feels like it is higher in grit because the steel swarf is blocking the stone... so the razor is sliding and not cutting...

    If you actually got an improvement from this the only thing I can think of is that you are using to much pressure when honing... So cutting back on the actual cutting ability of the hone helped ... this of course is just a WAG

    But normally this is viewed as being bad for honing to have swarf build up on the stones...

  6. #6
    Senior Member khaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Ithaca NY
    Posts
    1,752
    Thanked: 160

    Default

    Glen I think you are onto something- I think its not that I was using too much pressure (though I could have) but I think it might be helping to get the very light strokes actually very light. Make any sense? I know its not a good practice, just my current housing situation is not ideal for honing... I know it is bad in that it reduces cutting speed but is it BAD or is it bad? Like will it cause harm in some way, or is it just incorrect? Because if its BAD I will suck it up and stop, if its just bad, then I'll do it when I have to.

  7. #7
    Senior Member blabbermouth hi_bud_gl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    4,521
    Thanked: 1636

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by khaos View Post
    Glen I think you are onto something- I think its not that I was using too much pressure (though I could have) but I think it might be helping to get the very light strokes actually very light. Make any sense? I know its not a good practice, just my current housing situation is not ideal for honing... I know it is bad in that it reduces cutting speed but is it BAD or is it bad? Like will it cause harm in some way, or is it just incorrect? Because if its BAD I will suck it up and stop, if its just bad, then I'll do it when I have to.
    Yes it is bad . You need to clean up your stones and use it.
    if you want more explanation let me know.

  8. #8
    Hones/Honing/Master Barber avatar1999's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Waynesboro, PA
    Posts
    997
    Thanked: 199
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Keep a bucket/container of water near you and a toothbrush.

    Submerge the stone, scrub with brush, and keep honing...that's what I do.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    1,588
    Thanked: 286

    Default

    Thats why i prefer my belgium coticule i found the naniwas swarf up pritty quik and there for loose the cutting pwer especialy on the 1k

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •