Thread: What did I do?

Originally Posted by MinniesMate

I plan to accept Glen's offer (Glen, I will PM you to get the mailing info).

I would like to learn to be self-sufficient when it comes to all areas of straight shaving. In that vein, would the 1.000/6,000 combo here Buy Combination Waterstone, 8" x 2" x 1" 1000/6000 at Woodcraft.com be an acceptable addition to the 12K? If not, where would I get a Norton combo? I have looked at both The Home Depot and Lowe's and they only have small stones for pocket knives and tools for other less delicate honing.

I f I am not wrong that 1/6k combo is a King stone. I find those to be kind of slow for the job. A very standard stone is 4/8k Norton. 1k for bevel setter, can be Naniwa super stone, Naniwa Chosera, DMT (1.2k), Shapton. The review section has info on different stones, check it out.

Glen, why would you not use a wire brush on a stone? I've been using wire brushes to clean chisel sharpening stones for years and it works fine. Granted, they're not 12k grit, so that could be the difference.

Minnies, if you want a cheap stone set check out this set. It's a great price and comes with everything to need to maintain the stones.

EDIT:
Glen, I don't mean to argue with you. I know I'm a total beginner, so if I'm wrong please let me know.

Let me show you a trick:

Amazon.com: Norton Waterstone Starter Kit: 220/1000 grit stone, 4000/8000 grit stone, SiC flattening stone: Home Improvement

That set plus your CH12k will be all you ever NEED you might WANT more later but you won't NEED it...
In fact you won't really NEED the CH12k but hey you have it

There has never been a razor cross my path that the Nortons have not been able to hone I use Shapton's and Naniwas mostly but I used the Nortons exclusively for my first 1000 or so razors....

Originally Posted by aragornelessar86

Glen, why would you not use a wire brush on a stone? I've been using wire brushes to clean chisel sharpening stones for years and it works fine. Granted, they're not 12k grit, so that could be the difference.

Minnies, if you want a cheap stone set check out this set. It's a great price and comes with everything to need to maintain the stones.

LOL same stone set I posted...

Because you will destroy the nice even surface of the stone using a wire brush.. Razors need as smooth and flat a surface as possible...


No offense intended but razors do not sharpen like anything else, the only thing that relates is the fact that you know what it means when we say "nice even stroke" Other than that, very little coinsides...

Originally Posted by shooter74743

With the Japanese stones it's recommended to rub two stones of a close grit, say a 6k & 8K, face to face, both stones would be wet of course. Has worked well for me...

You have to be careful doing this, as you can imbed grit from the lower grit stone in the higher grit stone.... Again razors are a whole different animal when it comes to sharpening... I used my 1k Norton for ages to smooth out the 4k and 8k took me awhile to figure out those errent scratches...

Price wise the DMT 325 is hard to beat for lapping.... The Shapton DGLP is the finest, but damn pricey...

Glen, thanks for the link. Would you happen to know if these need lapping, or will I need to do this?

Thanks

Originally Posted by Scipio

Glen, thanks for the link. Would you happen to know if these need lapping, or will I need to do this?

Thanks

They will need lapping, the only question is how much

There is a great tutorial in the Wiki on how to do it fast and easy.....

My only trick to lapping is MORE water ....

Originally Posted by gssixgun

They will need lapping, the only question is how much

There is a great tutorial in the Wiki on how to do it fast and easy.....

My only trick to lapping is MORE water ....

Glen, what would you say to actually submerging the stones during lapping?

I heard of submerging stones during lapping, especially with the Naniwa's to reduce the swarf, I believe. With that Norton set that Glen recommended, Excellent set btw, I have one, with the lapping plate. I lapp mine under running water, which I'm probably wasting water, but anyway, it works for me. I lapp lots and lots of stones, especially when I'm selling Coticules. I use the DMT's. For fast work and removing lots, I use the D8XX, followed by the D8C. Sometimes, that's enough, depends on what type of stone it is.
If I need a smoother finish, say like a Barber's stone, I'll go to the Wet Sandpaper for the final finish...

+1 on the Wiki, That's pretty much exactly how I do it...

+1 to everything Glen said.

Like he said, go to the Wiki, and read everything there about honing. After that, might not be a bad idea to go through the Honing forum from old to new posts (yes, all of em) and read the stuff there as well.

Lots of information to help you along the way in your quest to learn honing.

I believe Glem said it, but I would also pick up a DMT D8C diamond hone for lapping. That Norton lapping stone kinda stinks, and will eventually need lapping itself. If you do get one, just make sure you lap under running water, will reduce the chance of knocking off the diamonds on the DMT.