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01-28-2010, 08:56 AM #11
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Thanked: 96I was away while you posted your reply Glen. I will do what you posted and get back to you with the results. Thanks
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01-28-2010, 10:02 AM #12
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Thanked: 13245Jason the circles in conjunction with that angled stroke you have already learned work so good together, that if it doesn't work out for you after all this...
I'll hone it for you, and see what is up with this edge
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01-28-2010, 11:34 AM #13
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01-28-2010, 04:06 PM #14
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Thanked: 39Wow
Wow,
Glen I have always been impressed & inspired by your work and knowledge... and now, your generosity & un-selfish offer to just help someone out and teach them to fish.
Now, I am even more impressed & inspired. There is a special place for people like you.
Thanks Glen
Marty
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01-29-2010, 01:41 AM #15
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Thanked: 96Well heres the promised update, I did exactly as Glen said and I now have a razor that will pop hairs easily in the center but still struggles, a little, towards the ends, but not too much. The whole blade feels pretty sticky on the TPT test, more so in the center than on the ends. I also found out that what I thought was sticky on the TNT test was no where near as sticky as it should of been. After I did the TNT test I went back and did 10 more laps on the 1k to make sure I didnt hurt the edge with the test. Re-checked by shaving my arm and now the whole edge will cut hairs pretty easily.
Off to the 4k I go, should I just do 20 laps then go to the 8K or should I do a conservative pyramid, or a full pyramid?
Thanks so much to you all. Jimmy thanks again for the honing link. Gugi your post really drove home how excessive my honing was and Glen you are my hero, thanks, thanks, thanks.
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01-29-2010, 04:23 AM #16
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Thanked: 13245Whatever one you feel more comfortable with will work best, but remember don't count, on the "count"
Start with 20 nice even X strokes on the 4k then see how that does, add in 5 at a time until it is popping arm hair above skin level, then do 20 laps on the 8k, strop and test shave half your face, you can always come back to a conservative pyramid after the test shave if needed and do the other half of your face for a test...
Once you feel good with the edge, there is a trick to get more smoothness out of the N8k..
When you are done with test shaving clean off the 8k and rinse with water, take your finger and squeegee off the excess, now start doing very light very perfect X strokes very slowly... The stone should go to almost dry at about 15 laps or so, stop yer done !!!!!Last edited by gssixgun; 01-29-2010 at 04:30 AM.
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01-29-2010, 10:51 PM #17
You can also use some black marker to see if your honing strokes are "equal" around the curvy parts of the edge.
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01-30-2010, 01:53 AM #18
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Thanked: 96Finally had a moment to try and refine my bevel. I did the 20 laps on the 4k and it wouldnt shave my arm even at skin level. Did 5 more nothing, 5 more still nothing ended up at about 40 total and it still wouldnt shave my arm. So I figured if I am not getting results I should try something different so I went to a conservative pyramid( 10 laps down to zero) and still no luck with my arm hair. When I was finished with the pyramid I looked at the edge through my hand held microscope and even with all the laps I have done after setting the bevel, my new bevel still only went across half of my old bevel but it is even all the way along the edge, I guess I really had my original bevel buggered up. I re-applied marker to double check my stroke and the bevel was all clean. I am going to go try again, 5 at a time on the 4k or maybe a cons.pyramid or two. About how many laps, before I should really start to worry about the number, am I already there again, or will it just take what it takes? Any other suggestions or is it just going to be about getting a closer to perfect stroke and more laps?
Today was my shave day so I figured what the hell, maybe I just have thin arm hair that wont cut easily, and took this razor with me for a test. It would grab the whiskers enough to stop the razor but wasnt sharp enough to cut them. So I guess I am close, its atleast not just going right over the top of them. Sorry to be such a pain. Thanks for all your help.
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01-30-2010, 04:58 AM #19
I recently got myself into a honing "death spiral"... I had a tiny bit of a frown in one razor, and when I went to reset the bevel doing just x-strokes, I could not get one part of the blade to cut arm hair-- it was about 1/2 inch below the toe. Rest of the blade was fine. I kept at it, trying to get that one spot to respond. Then I did the unforgivable-- I applied a lot of pressure trying to hit that spot... at the end of the day I had a pretty nasty frown in the blade. Off to the pros to bail me out...
So +1 to Glen on if it ain't workin' you better stop...
-Chief