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    Yes that is what I said but you also have to realize if your doing alot of strokes and not getting the result you want you do have to fall back to a lower grit to accelerate the process. You just have to decide if your dealing with a new razor is it more than just getting it shave ready or really needing to seriously hone it or do bevel work. At some point you have to decide is the razor maybe defective to begin with and then do you have the skills to deal with or to send it out or to send it back to the vendor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    Yes that is what I said but you also have to realize if your doing alot of strokes and not getting the result you want you do have to fall back to a lower grit to accelerate the process. You just have to decide if your dealing with a new razor is it more than just getting it shave ready or really needing to seriously hone it or do bevel work. At some point you have to decide is the razor maybe defective to begin with and then do you have the skills to deal with or to send it out or to send it back to the vendor?
    Yeah well I'll just chalk that up to my inexperience.

    In other news, I tried to finish up the honing process last night and get my razor to pass the HHT. Somehow I got no where, and maybe dulled it a little bit. Not a lot, but it won't even split hairs at all now.

    I'm not sure what I did differently, but I was definitely doing something right Wed night, and something wrong last night.

    As a side note, after trying to hone and then shave last night I looked at the Norton 8k I had been using. The center had an oval shape on it. Not physically, but in color. It looked like a big elongated egg was on the stone and the outer perimeter was a darker yellow. I'm not sure if this is normal.

    My plan was to relap the 4k and 8k sides tonight and then do the pyramid method starting at 10 like the wiki article says to do.

    Unless anyone has any other suggestions?

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    So i tried pyramids starting at 10/10, and have been getting no where.

    Occassionally it'll get dull, and then it'll get sharp again, but never to the point where it will pass the HHT or ping hair off my arm.

    Here's a video of me doing it on the 4k side for a couple of laps.

    Let me know if you see anything painfully obvious that I'm screwing up.

    YouTube - DSCF0862.AVI

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    have you tried x-stroke?
    also make sure the pressure is on the bevel not the spine.
    One other thing HHT if not performed right will not work for you. Sheve test is ultimate indicator of how well the blade is honed.
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    Update:





    My opinion is that 3 things may have happened. Technique or lack thereof caused this. I didn't flatten the stones enough. Or the blade came like this. Can anyone tell which it is from experience? Or could it be any of those?

    Either way, it looks like I need to reset the bevel.

    Go down to the 1k or all the way to the 220?

    On the plus side, I feel like I really have the honing strokes down now. I actually got the blade to pass the HHT with ease on certain parts of the blade. But I assumed the uneven bevel is keeping the rest of the edge from passing as well.

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    My advise, send the razor out for pro honing, and get a cheap eBay razor to learn honing on.
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    I've just got this mentality that if I can't hone the thing, I shouldn't be able to shave with it.

    Maybe it's a pride thing or something. But I know I want to keep using the SE to shave, so I might as well learn how to hone now. If anything else, it's giving me a lot of motivation to learn how to do it.

    Now I just need to know what I need to do to do it.

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    This razor is far from shaving, as you can see you have oxidized steel on the bevel. That needs to go. You can use the 1000 norton as it will take some time. It would be useful to look at the edge with magnification. Even the cheap $5 loupes should tell you more than you are seeing now.

    It'll probably take you at least 5 hours of honing before you get somewhat close to shaving. One of the guys who have honed thousands of razors can probably fix it in half an hour.
    Last edited by gugi; 07-25-2010 at 03:06 AM.

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