Thread: Honing a TI C135

Hey guys,

Do you guys have any suggestions as to how to approach honing such a beast? My weapon of choice is a coticule. I'm thinking that since the razor is so hard...maybe I should spend more time on the coticule with water as recommended for SS razors...Any thoughts?

Thanks

JF

IMHO you could try your regular routine and test if it's not quite there add a few more strokes. I have honed a few of the new TI's, not sure if the steel was the carbon song one, but they were pretty easy to hone.

The most important part is making sure you can shave arm hair at skin level at all points along the blade before diluting the slurry.

Start out with a thick almost "muddy" consistency and gradually dilute down to water as you go, but dont move off that muddy consistency until you can shave arm hair at skin level.

Thats what I do with mine and it works well..!

I think where I'm having some difficulties is when I apply the second layer of tape to work on a the secondary bevel (i'm using Bart's unicot method). I find it hard to know if I've done too few or too many passes at that stage.

You have to realize that every "System" only gets you close, sooner or later with every new razor you have to test and verify the Sharpness and Smoothness of the razor...
Sometimes you can do this while still on the hones, sometimes you have to adjust after the test shave...

You can, Unicot, Dulicot, Pyramid, and Progress, all you want, but sooner or later that razor has to shave

Based on Bart's post on another forum, I think I may have spent too much time on the misty slurry with tape which might have created a very wide bevel.

JF

Originally Posted by Dups

Based on Bart's post on another forum, I think I may have spent too much time on the misty slurry with tape which might have created a very wide bevel.

JF

Adding tape will not great wide bevel opposite will great shorter,smaller bevel.
I am not sure who tells you but it is not correct.
Now i would suggest make sure your coticule is a good one= Means your stone capable of to put razor edge to the blade.(basically fine enough)
To find out this try to hone another blade without creating secondary or tertiary bevel and see what you get.
if your Hone does the job then Problem in your honing.
hope this helps.

Hi,

I tried honing another one of my razors with it and it left a very nice and smooth edge. When I mentioned the "wide bevel" I was referring to the fact that during the unicot procedure, when you add tape and do the last refinement passes, if you do too many passes, you'll end up with a wider secondary bevel than what you should end up with.

Originally Posted by Dups

Hi,

if you do too many passes, you'll end up with a wider secondary bevel than what you should end up with.

situation # 1
Lets say you add tape and make 20 passes on the stone and edge gets it is maximum sharpness.
result of your secondary bevel size is 10 cm(example ok)

Situation #2
Now instead of 20 you have done only 10
what is the result? you will not get maximum sharpness
and result of your secondary bevel size will be 5 cm ok= dull edge
Basically your secondary bevel has \_/ edge doesn't meet each other.
Situation #3
instead of 20 strokes you have made 40
what is the result?
You have created secondary bevel and your sharpness should be better or equal to situation 1# because you have 'v' . and bevel length will be 10 cm too. same as situation #1.
In fact by their theory this edge should be a lot sharper
(this is the purpose you guys creating secondary bevel)
In reality DOESN'T MATTER you create secondary bevel or not if your blade is quality blade your edge sharpness WILL NOT change by adding number of tapes.
Only differences you will feel while you shave is noise blade creates while cuts the hairs.
(blade acts similar to wedge blade more backing of the edge)
This confuses you and you guys think sharpness of the edge is better.
In reality it is not .
Now if you said Secondary bevel gets wire edge by making too many passes this will be different conversation.
hope this helps.

I see....I will try Bart's suggestion tonight and we'll see how that turns out