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    Question Re-setting bevel with a coticule?

    Recently i added a coticule to my other hones. It is of greenish color and seems to be a good polisher. I was able to get a smooth shave with a blade that had to be touched up. I used a small coti of chamois color to raise slurry and applied the dilucot method followed by crox.
    Today I tried to use the stone on a blade that i want to restore. The edge is blunt after sanding it. I spent 1 hour on the hone but i could not get it to shave arm hair.
    Do you use a coti for restoration work?

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    You can, but the Coti your describing, Green in color is a hard finisher...Sorry my friend. It'd take you some time to set a bevel with that...Pinker Coti's or deep yellow's are normally softer, and better cutters...I can't help with the other terminology your using, I don't use Bart's methods..Sorry. You might check with him on that...
    My advice to you, Get a 1k...you'll be glad you did....

    Tiger stripped cotis are pretty fast cutters too, they have a pink/brown tint to them..These pics aren't the best....

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    IME green tint coticules are slow with water only and good polishers. I have a couple and they work well to add keenness with slurry and then finish with water only but they ain't efficient for setting a bevel. Coticules with a lot of pink in them are the best I've found for fast cutting. I have the one shown below and it is real good for setting bevels with heavy slurry. So it depends on the coticule. Most of the time I use a synthetic in the 1k range for bevel setting.
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    Look at it this way, coticules are rare, finite in quantity, and expensive. Any way you do it, the coticule is better on the finishing end rather than the bevel setting end of the honing spectrum. 1k hones are relatively cheap and do the job faster. If you intend to set more than a few bevels, the 1k is a much better option.

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    I usually use a Shapton glass 500 for re-set a bevel. But i like the idea of using a single hone for all purposes.
    Setting the bevel on the razor i mentioned took about 30 minutes on the Shapton. I just wanted to know if somebody uses a coti for restoration work.
    Would a different slurry stone speedup the process? Which would you recommend?

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    How big of a coti?

    Making a real thick slurry and working it back and forth or in circles until the bevel is set. I Use a progression to get the bevel and then move to coti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walto View Post
    I usually use a Shapton glass 500 for re-set a bevel. But i like the idea of using a single hone for all purposes.
    Setting the bevel on the razor i mentioned took about 30 minutes on the Shapton. I just wanted to know if somebody uses a coti for restoration work.
    Would a different slurry stone speedup the process? Which would you recommend?
    You can probably do it on your green coticule but bring your lunch. What Utopian is saying, the way I interpret it, is that coticules are rare and expensive. Wearing one out setting bevels is not as efficient as using the easily replaced and more efficient synthetic.
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    I don't know, If your intent on using the green coti to do it, I'd probably try a bbw slurry, then if I could get one, A pinker, or deep yellow slurry stone....refreshing the slurry as it darkens...Don't forget, The Coti itself is going to bring something to the party too, so, how much the slurry does, vs the stone itself, I'm not sure...

    Why not ask Bart to try and get you a "Do all coti" a softer one...That green one will be a good finisher, I'm estimating in the 10k range....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    You can probably do it on your green coticule but bring your lunch.
    I'd rather do not eat during honing

    This stone is rather big. It's 250x62mm. I found out that the slurry stone has something like a bbw on the other side. It raises a purple slurry on the coti. I will try this side as slurry stone next time.

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    I'm an inveterate Coticule user. I love them and live barely a stone's throw from the quarries. I totally agree with Utopian. My bevel setter is a Naniwa 1k.

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