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    Default How shiny is your bevel?

    Okay, I'm still a bit of a novice honer and could use some advice. I recently took a razor that wasn't shaving well through a bevel reset on a DMT-XF to a Naniwa 3K, a Naniwa 8K, a Coticule with water only and finished it on a Naniwa 12K. Not sure if the steps were excessive, but I was experimenting a little. As I mentioned, I'm still a bit of a novice, so I'm still sorting out how to get the most out of the least amount of work.

    The edge I produced shaves pretty darn well, but it seems a bit harsh on my face. Not overly so. No knicks or weepers, just a razor bump or two and a little more sting from the after shave than usual. I notice upon close inspection that my bevel has a few scratches that are visible to the naked eye. It made me wonder, perhaps I progressed through my hones too rapidly? Or maybe I'm just being paranoid. Before taking it back to the Coti to try to take the scratches out, I thought I'd ask the forum how shiny is your bevel? Should there be no visible lines after the Coti or perhaps even the 8K?

    I appreciate your input.

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    Mike,

    I use a 1, 3, 8, 12 progression of Naniwas, and expect, to the naked eye, the bevel to have bright 'mirror' finish.

    Under ca 30X there is a scratch pattern visble.

    I do not have enough honing experience to know whether your 'scratches' would affect your shave or not

    Have you had a peek at the edge (not bevel) under decent levels of magnification ?

    Scratches that are not on the edge wouldn't have any effect on the shave.

    As the shave you get is very good, have you tried a few laps on CrOx to give it some 'smooth' ?

    Good luck !

    Have fun !

    Best regards

    Russ
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    You are doubling up on finishers first off, either use the Coticule, or the 12k but both is pretty much overkill...

    Also the DMT needs to be used carefully as they tend to cut "deep" so the scratches from them are hard to remove... Try using the 3k a bit more, as your bevel at that level should be already like a mirror to the naked eye..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbrossar View Post
    I notice upon close inspection that my bevel has a few scratches that are visible to the naked eye.
    I think Glen hit the nail on the head ,how surprising

    Altho a coti finish looks scratchy under a loupe, it won't be to the naked eye.
    I think you're visible scratches are from bevel set. Sort out your mid stage then......

    Shave off your coti or shave off off your 12 k. There won't be much in it but if you wanna tweak, 3-5 strokes on the next stone is more than enough pre testing.
    “The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.”

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    Being able to see scratches with the nekkid eye is never good. Razor and condition?? All nekkid eye scratches should be gone following a bevel setting. Definitely at the 3,4 or 5K level and beyond that you really are polishing.

    Have fun,

    Lynn

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    Thanks guys. I thought seeing those scratches was a bad thing. Looks like it's back to the rocks.

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    Did you happen to break in your DMT? Just mellow it out a bit I have heard of using a screw driver shaft.

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