Thread: What exactly is overhoning?

Originally Posted by AFDavis11

Oh my God,

An overhoning thread leading to a discussion of taping spines! LOL.


Glen, this is your worst nightmare!!


P.S. You're right too.

And I woke up to this one hehehe...

I'm glad nobody was coarse enough to mention the term "hijacked the thread". I believe hijacking is a crime in all 57 states except the lethargic state...................

I tend to like to call it either "Meandering" or "Re-direction" Jerry, it sounds so much less illegal then Hijacking

Originally Posted by AFDavis11

Oh my God,

An overhoning thread leading to a discussion of taping spines! LOL.


Glen, this is your worst nightmare!!


P.S. You're right too.

Ah yes, and wake up to the world of the over taped spine.

So... Back to my OP.
I still haven't had an observable overhone. (still a very small sample size in terms of both razors and hones)
I was talking to Mike Blue about it for a bit after the MN meet, and he thinks that my stropping might be eliminating the effect of "overhoning". That is where I will focus next: overhoning without stropping.

Stropping will sometimes remove the "wire edge" when a razor is over honed. This usually occurs when the overhoning is minimal. If you had continued honing beyond that point you will notice small micronicks in the edge and stropping will not correct that. Continued honing will result in larger sections of the edge either curling over ( under scope it appears brown on one side of the blade and shiny on the other side due to different angles of light) or sections falling off the edge.


Hope this helps,

Originally Posted by randydance062449

Stropping will sometimes remove the "wire edge" when a razor is over honed. This usually occurs when the overhoning is minimal. If you had continued honing beyond that point you will notice small micronicks in the edge and stropping will not correct that. Continued honing will result in larger sections of the edge either curling over ( under scope it appears brown on one side of the blade and shiny on the other side due to different angles of light) or sections falling off the edge.


Hope this helps,

This is as good a description of how to see it. I had a blade brought to me to fix that a fellow had tried to hone and it looked just like the description above under magnification. Thanks.

I got a USB microscope to help my understanding of this...
The procedure on the razor pictured below:
I took a shave ready razor, did 50 strokes on the 4k, only 10 on the 8k (I mostly wanted to test the finisher here... Taking it down to 4 was to ensure a fresh edge), 10 strokes on Naniwa 12k, 100 more strokes on Naniwa 12k, 60 strokes on CrOx, then a picture post shaving.

The following is just one razor:
(pics are: 4k, 8k, 12k w/ 10 strokes, 12k w/ 100 strokes, Crox w/ 60 strokes, post-shave)

Defining overhoning as a damaged edge misses another variation on the theme. If a person tests the edge with TPT, hair popping or whatever ....... gets to a point where the edge is 'honed' ..... continues to hone beyond 'there' the level of sharpness can decline. If they hone without sharpness tests, every so often, how much more likely are they to go beyond the requisite sharpness.

An old barber in the '80s, giving me a honing lesson, told me that if you go too far or use too much pressure , you can "lose the edge." So my postulate is that overhoning can be an issue while the edge may not be falling apart. The 'falling apart' edge is overhoned as well but losing the attained sharpness through continued, and unnecessary honing is overhoning as well. Just thinking out loud.

Jimmy,

I agree but I get tired of fighting the crowd.