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Thread: A problem? A Solution?
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02-23-2011, 12:14 AM #1
A problem? A Solution?
So you're shaving this morning and you notice your shave is kind of rough but the shave is still close and you look at your razor with the naked eye or maybe a low power magnifying glass and sure enough you can see those micro chips on the edge so you go to your trusty hone maybe 1K or 4K to take them out or wait a minute here you by accident decide to look at the edge with 30x or so and wait a minute those aren't microchips whats going on here it's the way the light was reflecting off the edge. It appears there are kind of like flat areas in the edge, more on one side of the blade than the other and depending on how you move the blade it looks not so bad or maybe yes it is bad and there are areas in the edge where the edge actually seems to be torn or folded back.
So whats going on here and how would you approach this from a honing standpoint. The same as a microchip or not?
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02-23-2011, 12:50 AM #2
I would first wipe the blade off and take another look to remove soap scum, follicle and dead skin cells.. If it still had the same problem, strop it, if still the same problem hone it out.
Edit: I use coticles, I dont get burrs or wire edges.Last edited by nun2sharp; 02-23-2011 at 03:26 AM.
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02-23-2011, 01:48 AM #3
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02-23-2011, 02:06 AM #4
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Thanked: 993If the edge was folded back a tad, or torn up, wouldn't we muck up our nice strop leather a bit? Would we want to consider doing a couple spine leading honing strokes on an 8K maybe, to eliminate the possibility of a burr or rolled edge? Then break out the loupe again and evaluate? I think I'd start by eliminating variables, so I can get a better idea of what needs to be done.
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02-23-2011, 02:13 AM #5
My uncertainty comes from viewing only with 30x, but I would guess it wasn't stropped? My reason is we talk about stropping realigning the teeth and getting it back in order as well as cleaning up the edge. So, maybe you saw more on one side if you used that side of your blade more.
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02-23-2011, 02:14 AM #6
I would just set it aside until I next saw Glen since he already knows the answer and I would rather not screw up my equipment, besides the meets aren't that far away
Edit: I don't shave in the morning and don't use a 30x loupe so I guess it doesn't matter. I can say that I don't go above 10x since I don't know how to interpret what I am looking at, it is like a child telling a story; all of the details and little that matters to further the story.Last edited by deighaingeal; 02-23-2011 at 02:19 AM.
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02-23-2011, 02:32 AM #7
SOunds like a burr or wire edge...I think a CrOx strop or a good coarse linen strop should take care of that. Depending on the uniformity of the edge after removing the burr, I guess, you shouldn't need to hone much, but if it tears off ragged then you should drop back to an appropriate level.
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02-23-2011, 02:39 AM #8
I'm not going to say anything, waiting for the two smarty pants mods to pipe up and identify the problem.
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02-23-2011, 04:45 AM #9
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Thanked: 40couple of thougts, only a beginner so I might even be looking in the wrong direction but....
maybe you need to lap your stones before honing?
maybe the razor is not tempered properly if the edge is rolling?
maybe you finished with a shapton 16k or 30k and overhoned?
I'd try a canvas stropping, maybe a hundred or two laps and have a look, if the problem is gone I'd do the same on leather and see if the shave has improved, if not try a pyrimid maybe 4k-8k or an 8k-10k/12k/16k if it fixes the problem? GREAT! pat on back, have a pipe or scotch lol
if not either drop a grit or send out.
Whatcha think
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02-23-2011, 05:01 AM #10
i see a mod badge under my name, i see my pants are all smart looking, but two of them???
awrite i just stop looking anymore, not at my pants, not at my bevels...
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