alan that sounds like a good idea but id be afraid to dull another razor lol, ill probably give that a try though, if i screw it up to bad i can always send it out to get fixed right. ill also try and head out tonight to get a loop. with the loop am i just pretty much looking to make sure the shiny edge is mostly even or what? thanks all these tips are helpful. im determined to get good at this. while i watching gssixguns video it looks like (i know this isnt how it REALLY is) just slide the razor on the stone a few time and BAM it sharp lol, i know there is more to it then that but wouldnt that be nice

-dan-