That's the spirit. Thank you, James. I only wish that the whole discussion was at this level. I haven't ever said that his approach should not be questioned, everything should be, in fact.

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No one claims there are not more sophisticated ways. No one claims there is only one way. But we certainly do reserve the right to claim that a technique is potentially dangerous if undertaken by the unwary.
Okay, that sounds, what can I say, way more mature than things you could read here...

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The devil is in the details IMO.
That was exactly the point I was trying to make. And hell knows, maybe his details make it work?

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Let's take this back to honing instead of getting personal...

Perhaps you could enlighten all of us on how you got this system to work for you, what razors you tried it on, and how well you tested it against your old system (tell us what that is too also please) and why you think it is a good system...

I am of course assuming that you have tested Murray's system on at least a few razors?????
Hello?? Where did you Glen saw me saying I did use "the system"? I haven't. Hence, I couldn't say it was good. What I'd love to see at the "major shaving forum" is a little more open mindedness, while it turns out that if someone does things in an unorthodox (widely accepted, or whatever we call it) way, is instantly thrown cheap jokes at.

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ps: How did you overcome the problem of raising a burr and then smoothing that out without wasting excess steel ???? and why did you do that in the first place ???? Honestly I am a bit confused on that as one spot I hear burr and another I don't :shrug: I would especially like to hear how it did on older heavier grinds like the Sheffielders???
And you're asking to get this back to honing and not personal, by trying to provoke my display of "how much I feel competent about honing". Wow.

regards,
Matt