The Famous/Infamous Norton 4/8 "JaNorton 2012"

"This is fun, and I"m learning TONS from you guys. Thanks so much!" Mike - I join with your sentiment. This is a LOT of fun and I'm learning a bunch of information as well. Thanks Glen!!!:rock:

Good stuff Gary!!

The 8K can be dialed in pretty nicely with either one or two 1-3,1-5's using the 4K/8K pyramid finish or even just 3-5 no pressure X strokes one or two times.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by gary haywood

I've not joined in this. I have read the thread and it made me hone my silver wing TI. With my 4k/8k. Mine has been cut down the centre. So its only 8x1.5, i gave the other half away. I soon set the bevel with some half strokes. then i did 50 very light x strokes on the 4k. std 20 on the 8k. stropped and probed with usaul hht. I then did another 5 very light strokes on 8k. stropped and probed. I did another 5 very light x strokes on 8k.

Shaved this morning. I started out with norton4k'8k and i no the 8k can deliver a very nice shave. all though as a beginner i was very hit and miss. The shave of my silver wing this morning, was with out a shadow of dout as smooth as you'd ever need. The smoothness and shavability is as good as it gets. If i did not no any differant i would of thought the edge was finished on a 10k 12k, not rough at all and very silky smooth. I will shave of this razor for a while. I may just add 5 laps extra before each shave and see what the 8k is realy capable of. the edge is more than good enought for me . It will be interesting to see what differance a thew laps on a finisher would make... I carn't imagine a great deal. But i can see why peole have shaved of 8k norton, and had no problems..


gary

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Originally Posted by Magpie

Guess my question got buried, so I will ask again,

According to Lynn, there is no need to wipe the edge, as honing on the 4K will essentially revert the edge to the 4k level.

Therefore, is it not also true that honing on the 8K would take a highly polished edge (like off a J-nat or Shapton 30K) ?

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yes, but it won't reset the bevel as easilly as the 4k will.

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Sorta :)

Taking a 30k or a Highly finished edge back to an 8k will put scratches on the edge but it won't necessarily dull the edge..

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surely if you're doing it right a 4k isn't going to *dull* it either? :P
I mean, if you're able to shave off of a 1k (all-be it not as comfortable as possible), it can't really be that dull :P

Gentlemen, I had the most amazing shave right off the Norton a couple hours ago.
I looked at the edge in the scope before the shave and did see more scratches than I like, so I gave it another
"20 laps to dry", and the edge looked waaay finer. A lot more polished.
And it really did the trick. The edge was sharp and very smooth, like impossibly smooth for a 8k edge! :)

I believe I've seen the light!

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By blix72 at 2012-01-03

So todays honing session was 20 laps on the 8k, then 50/100 on a Illinois #827

BAM, a top 10 shave at least.

Hey all so i have a Norton Prep stone question....is anyone using it to make a slurry?? I watched in glen's video he made a while back that he used it and i went ahead and experimented with it but it didn't really seem to do what i think it should it seemed to "gum up" no matter how went the 4k was. should the prep stone be soaked as well or what else could i be messing up? it seems to drink any amount of water i have on the 4k thanks!

I picked up an Artificial "Nagura" Stone from Lee Valley, which I'd intended to use to raise the slurry on my 4k/8k.

Is this in line with JaNortan specifications? I see you state we should not use a special nagura. Hopefully, this evening will allow me enough free time for honing.

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Originally Posted by jdto

I picked up an Artificial "Nagura" Stone from Lee Valley, which I'd intended to use to raise the slurry on my 4k/8k.

Is this in line with JaNortan specifications? I see you state we should not use a special nagura. Hopefully, this evening will allow me enough free time for honing.

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Is it the Norton Prep Stone?? I believe, have to go back to the rules, if you are using the Norton Prep stone it is Okay but any other slurry stones would be out.

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Originally Posted by BenjamanBarker

Is it the Norton Prep Stone?? I believe, have to go back to the rules, if you are using the Norton Prep stone it is Okay but any other slurry stones would be out.

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It is not branded as Norton, no.

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Originally Posted by jdto

It is not branded as Norton, no.

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I think then it would be "out"

"Yes slurry is allowed, but no special nagura, only use either a Norton prep stone, a Norton Lapping stone, or a diamond plate to produce it"

thats from glen's first post.....but thats not to say that you shouldn't try it with a different razor or once "JaNort" is over ;)

i think im gonna try using the DMT and leave the slurry on the 4k tonight when i head back to the Boker i am using that has proved to be a HUGE PITA!!!! since i haven't had much luck with the Norton Prep.....which is probably an operator error issue more than a tool issue!


edit: 3 days in to the actual JaNorton month and we already hit 300 post......this thread is gonna be a BEAR to go back and reread or jump into part way thru!