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    I wouldn't automatically assume a certain brand of razor has bad bevels and you have to reset them. You need to look at it and make that decision for yourself. If you don't like the way it looks and think you can do a better job then do it. Also if the razor is doing it's job why reset the bevel. Why look for trouble?

    I haven't had any recent Dovo's the last time I bought a new one was a few years ago and I thought the edges were in good shape. They needed honing, some needed bevel work but I never saw microchips on any.
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    I think the same about my dovo's. i have a prima klang that shaves fine, i just whipped it on my coticule. I would shave with factory edge . if its not qite how you like?, just try 10 laps on your 12k naniwa. I never had microchips. you could check the edge with a 30k loop

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary haywood View Post
    I think the same about my dovo's. i have a prima klang that shaves fine, i just whipped it on my coticule. I would shave with factory edge . if its not qite how you like?, just try 10 laps on your 12k naniwa. I never had microchips. you could check the edge with a 30k loop
    i like wtg, not atg. and funny thing about loops, it seems none are actually 30k. the ones that are, only differ in price from an OK microscope by 10-20 bucks. only thing that bothers me is. I know not EVERYONE hones with an optical device. why me? i'm a bare bones type of guy. so i really would like to hone with only hands and stones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    I wouldn't automatically assume a certain brand of razor has bad bevels and you have to reset them. You need to look at it and make that decision for yourself. If you don't like the way it looks and think you can do a better job then do it. Also if the razor is doing it's job why reset the bevel. Why look for trouble?
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    +1. Evaluate the edge with a loupe (or microscope) before starting to hone it.

    If you don't have either tool, start with 10 or 20 light laps on your finest stone, and test the result. If it's no good, drop to the next-finest stone (or use more pressure). And so on.

    If you had a pasted strop, I'd suggest starting with that.

    You have a problem to deal with:

    . . . You don't have _proven_ honing skills.

    So do as little damage as possible -- which means using the finest stone that you have.

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    Yeah, the 4 out of 4 dovos with a factory edge I've honed in the last several months all needed bevel work. Shavingwise they were what I consider barely shaving, though I'm sure many new people simply struggle through with that and end up either suffering, giving up, or finding a way to get a proper edge. But that's a pretty small sample, somebody like Lynn who hones a ton of them all the time would know best what state they typically come in, though there will always be variations.

    The problem with doing these things over the internet is that it's almost impossible to evaluate the edge of somebody's razor. Best course of action always is to find somebody local who's good at it and who's willing to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    Yeah, the 4 out of 4 dovos with a factory edge I've honed in the last several months all needed bevel work. Shavingwise they were what I consider barely shaving, though I'm sure many new people simply struggle through with that and end up either suffering, giving up, or finding a way to get a proper edge. But that's a pretty small sample, somebody like Lynn who hones a ton of them all the time would know best what state they typically come in, though there will always be variations.

    The problem with doing these things over the internet is that it's almost impossible to evaluate the edge of somebody's razor. Best course of action always is to find somebody local who's good at it and who's willing to help.
    a daunting task from what i have found.

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    You do need to evaluate the edge first. I recently purchased some Factory Dovo's. The one I opened was surprisingly ok. All it needed was a go on my Escher. That's it. No bevel work. I always try to do the least amount of work possible to spare wear, so if the bevel is ok, and it's amost there, I'll just grab a finisher, then maybe 10 lapps on .50 Diamond spray on felt, and I'm good to go. Of course, since these blades are done by hand at Solingen, there are differences from blade to blade, Evaluation is a must, YMMV. Here's a vid from youtube on how Dovo's are made...Making DOVO Straight Razors - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by zib View Post
    You do need to evaluate the edge first. I recently purchased some Factory Dovo's. The one I opened was surprisingly ok. All it needed was a go on my Escher. That's it. No bevel work. I always try to do the least amount of work possible to spare wear, so if the bevel is ok, and it's amost there, I'll just grab a finisher, then maybe 10 lapps on .50 Diamond spray on felt, and I'm good to go. Of course, since these blades are done by hand at Solingen, there are differences from blade to blade, Evaluation is a must, YMMV. Here's a vid from youtube on how Dovo's are made...Making DOVO Straight Razors - YouTube

    a 12k is no escher. will it do the job? also. one of the dovos i got is a stainless steel blade. I'm i to do double laps for it? or go one step further 8k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jp1munoz View Post
    a 12k is no escher. will it do the job? also. one of the dovos i got is a stainless steel blade. I'm i to do double laps for it? or go one step further 8k?
    We don't know. Too bad you can't see because you refuse to use magnification. You'll have to send it out to someone else, someone who cheats with optics!

    BTW, what do you use to keep your hones flat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpcohen1945 View Post
    +1. Evaluate the edge with a loupe (or microscope) before starting to hone it.

    If you don't have either tool, start with 10 or 20 light laps on your finest stone, and test the result. If it's no good, drop to the next-finest stone (or use more pressure). And so on.

    If you had a pasted strop, I'd suggest starting with that.

    You have a problem to deal with:

    . . . You don't have _proven_ honing skills.

    So do as little damage as possible -- which means using the finest stone that you have.

    Charles
    excellent advice. I'm going to try 20 laps on 12k tonight, hopefully thats where i can stop. +1 on honing skills. i failed on a wedge twice. i think the reason was i used tape to set bevel because i couldnt get the thing to cut hair off the 1k. Once i got an even bevel and shaved hair i took the tape off and went to polishing. from what i have read that means i polished the top of the bevel not the edge. Correct?

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