Thread: Wondering about the Mastri Livi style of honing...

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

They shave out of the box,but not in a refined way,cannot explaine it.

That may be the case with yours, but it sure wasn't with my Livi's
I've had the great pleasure of trying out the honing of many of the renowned honers out there, and the Snake I recently received was not in any way inferior to most any of them!

I also did have the abalone one that is pictured. it shaved like a dream out of the box. my inox damask also shaved very well indeed. I could tell they had been heavaly pasted on crox by the feel. still the razors were very smooth and sharp.

meistro is a very talanted man, i love his dvd's
gary

Don't get me wrong,they are fabulous razors for sure,Are many variables as we all know,diff face,diff beard,diff prep,the list go's on.

Originally Posted by kamikazeproject

I'd say it's just a hard translucent, from the looks of it. I've never used one for razors, but I have for knives. I think most people don't use them because they're slow. But then again, some of the same people who won't use them because they're slow will use those Chinese 12k things until the sun burns out of the sky and sucks up the world. Which, I don't know about all of them, but the one I had (and subsequently gave away) was exhausting. My shoulder muscles literally started aching with that godforsaken piece of rock. With that fast "to and fro" motion that he uses though, I doubt there's really such thing as a slow stone. My L.I. is normally pretty slow, but not using it like that. This style though... I don't know how well it would work with a blade that's got any kind of real smile to it. I'm sure someone who's better than me could do it, but I doubt I could.

I've been experimenting with my Trans Ark lately, I'm using oil and lots of 1/2 x-strokes with very little pressure.
Of my 4 test razors, one got a A++ edge, the other ones not as much (but still useable). I think it comes down to the proper previous stone (as with all finishing hones) and I haven't found the right one yet.

Originally Posted by rodb

I've been experimenting with my Trans Ark lately, I'm using oil and lots of 1/2 x-strokes with very little pressure.
Of my 4 test razors, one got a A++ edge, the other ones not as much (but still useable). I think it comes down to the proper previous stone (as with all finishing hones) and I haven't found the right one yet.

I finally read that "Norton 4000/8000 for all of January" thread this morning, so I used this method on a Joseph Rodgers that's been sitting in a box for a few months... and I'll be honest, I'm kinda wondering why I ever even started buying finishers. haha You have to hit it a little harder with the linen, but other than that, the end result is the exact same.

Im glad you guys were getting great shaves out of the box. Im sure He cant test shave every razor he hones. So im sure a few will slip through the cracks.

Originally Posted by kamikazeproject

I finally read that "Norton 4000/8000 for all of January" thread this morning, so I used this method on a Joseph Rodgers that's been sitting in a box for a few months... and I'll be honest, I'm kinda wondering why I ever even started buying finishers. haha You have to hit it a little harder with the linen, but other than that, the end result is the exact same.

WOW! You read the whole thread. So what did you try on your JR? Are you refering to linen stropping?

Originally Posted by nicknbleeding

WOW! You read the whole thread. So what did you try on your JR? Are you refering to linen stropping?

Haha! Hell no. I hadn't ever clicked on the thread, so I didn't know about it. I just used this M.L. style honing using only a 4/8 norton. Yeah, I mean the linen strop. I don't know about other people, but for me, hitting it hard with the linen is the key to getting a razor to pass the HHT off of the 8000. Like I said though, that's just me... everyone gets to the finish line a little differently.

Originally Posted by kamikazeproject

Haha! Hell no. I hadn't ever clicked on the thread, so I didn't know about it. I just used this M.L. style honing using only a 4/8 norton. Yeah, I mean the linen strop. I don't know about other people, but for me, hitting it hard with the linen is the key to getting a razor to pass the HHT off of the 8000. Like I said though, that's just me... everyone gets to the finish line a little differently.

Are you doing the HHT off the 8k without using a 1k?

Originally Posted by rodb

I've been experimenting with my Trans Ark lately, I'm using oil and lots of 1/2 x-strokes with very little pressure.
Of my 4 test razors, one got a A++ edge, the other ones not as much (but still useable). I think it comes down to the proper previous stone (as with all finishing hones) and I haven't found the right one yet.

Do you have a good hard arkansas stone (not a trans or a black arkansas, but a white hard thats just a tad more coasre) that's been allowed to wear a little on the surface? Or any hard arkansas at all?

my trans arkansas will yield a good arkansas as long as I leave the surface settled and do a decent job with the leather (bare leather, nothing after the stone), but the razor has to be brought to it from a stone that doesn't leave deep grooves.