Thread: Jnat Finishing Routines--what are yours?

Originally Posted by PA23-250

You can probably avoid removing too much metal on the 1k by keeping the strokes light, right? I think I'm pretty much sold on the pros now!

You can do all sorts of things ,even experiment with slurries from BBW's, Coticules etc etc.. The pro's excel with light strokes. Could actually be a bad thing for heavy handed beginners.

I have a shapton 1k pro and love it. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend it

Originally Posted by mainaman

they split in flakes, like puff pastry for example

Good analogy!

Originally Posted by PA23-250

I'd sort of like to get the 2k & even the Atoma 400 as well (worried about the DMT 325 sticking to the 12k), but I don't know if I can swing it, money wise. You can probably avoid removing too much metal on the 1k by keeping the strokes light, right? I think I'm pretty much sold on the pros now!

If you use the DMT under running water, you'll have no issues with it. I used a DMT for a while before I wore it out abusing it on other stuff, and only replaced it with the atoma after that.

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

My finishing on Jnat's is a bit too psychedelic to document but lately I've been doing something akin to Iwasaki san's honing instructions. I will do 5-10 light swipes on felt sprayed with 0.5 diamond then do 3 -5 strokes on my finest Jnat, dry , no water. Strop linen & leather after, of course.
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Onimaru55

I just tried 6 consecutive razors with this method. The razors were shave ready basically. The results on all six blades were phenomenal. I did the .5 micron diamond on SRD felt and the 5-6 laps on a dry Nakayama Maruichi Asagi I got from old_school several years ago. Then 75 laps on horsebutt. Whew!!! That's a beautiful finish.

Thank you for posting this one. Six consecutive blades is no fluke. It works.

Jerry
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I've noticed that diamond spray on felt fixes anything. If you're going to finish with diamond spray, though, what is the point of using anything other than an 8k norton?

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Originally Posted by mrsell63

I've noticed that diamond spray on felt fixes anything. If you're going to finish with diamond spray, though, what is the point of using anything other than an 8k norton?

I agree with your statement but If you reread my post you'll see I don't 'finish' on diamond. I finish on a Nakayama Asagi after using the diamond very sparingly to remove any slight remnants of a burr. A similar technique is documented in Kosuke Iwasaki's book on honing tho he used CrO.
There's a link in this thread if you haven't read it:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/gener...-kamisori.html

I post w/ trepidation. Onimaru was insanely kind and patient w/ my ignorance about learning the jnat. I've not mastered the 3-stroke finish and call it good. FWIW, I'd pay attention to his posts on jnats. I do, and will keep doing so.

That said, my flailing about has given me edges I love. I'll either go Nani 8, N12, then very very light slurry w/ Atoma 1.2 on a Nakayama Asagi. Typically about 50 circles (varies) each direction, each side, and dilute in 3-4 stages to clear water. If its extra hollow, I might not go all the way to clear water or I get some harshness.
Alternately, I'll go from a set bevel to a fast coti to the Asagi w/ a heavier slurry and dilute to water. On regular hollows, any harshness is eliminated by 3-6 strokes on the dry stone. Extra hollows have seemed to need more - or I go to a thuringian to smooth it out.

Originally Posted by pinklather

On regular hollows, any harshness is eliminated by 3-6 strokes on the dry stone. Extra hollows have seemed to need more - or I go to a thuringian to smooth it out.

if you have such problems with hollows it is possible you are doing too many strokes.

Originally Posted by pinklather

On regular hollows, any harshness is eliminated by 3-6 strokes on the dry stone. Extra hollows have seemed to need more - or I go to a thuringian to smooth it out.

Hi Robert Just remember not all razors come out perfectly smooth for whatever reason. Sometimes you can only optimise a razor to it's best ability rather than your ability or what you're used to from a fave razor.
As an extreme example imagine trying to hone a Pakistani razor to the degree an Iwasaki razor can reach. There will be all number of degrees in between with various razors & comprise is often inevitable.

Stephan, yes - I don't quite have the feel in my fingers to know when its overbaked yet. I've no doubt you're right. And you've mentioned how 'circles 'til it gets sticky, x-strokes on water until lets go a bit. I can't feel the let go at this point.

Oz, You've always been most gratious to us - reminding that not all razors have the same potential. As Madeleine Cann said in Blazing Saddles: "Its Twue, its twue"! 'Said it before, but your counsel on the jnat sticks with me probably more than you might think, including 'you're not using it as a finisher'. 'hard to say how much I appreciate your kind help.