Thread: 10k naniwa

Originally Posted by glytch5

I'm relatively new to razor honing and this forum but, i've had a 10k SS for a long time, i bought it for polishing pocket knives years ago.
I took a razor from SS 1k, to 2k green brick, 5k ss and then the 10k ss and got a better shave than what was on the pro honed razor. Thinking if I should go ahead and buy the naniwa SS 8k to fit in before it, or if thats a waste of time and money.

Take a look at this post by Glen Mercurio. It is very helpful.

What hone(s), paste(s), or spray(s) do I need? - Straight Razor Place Library

I prefer to use as small of jumps in grit as possible, but it is not absolutely necessary. I think it is fine for you to go from the 5k to the 10k.

Well, it depends on how long it takes to remove the 5k stria, with the 10K. It sounds like it is working pretty well for you, though.

While I don’t have a 10K super stone I do have an 8K SS and for many years did a 4k Norton to 10k king progression and it worked just fine.

I have even heard of guys doing a 1k to 10k jump, but that is a little large for me, though not too long ago, guys routinely had a course stone, a fine stone and leather strop as a full progression.

All that counts is how it shaves, take your time and make sure you are getting a full bevel set and then just polish out the previous grits stria, strop well and shave.

I just received a 2k Green Brick, Naniwa, that is an interesting stone and may be the reason for much of your success, it does really remove a lot of deep 1k stria and makes polishing easier and quicker.

Enjoy.

I agree the green brick may have been a big part of my success. I was quite happy with how my first razor went. That stone starts cutting at 2k, but then slowly polishes into like a 3.5. On my Japanese knives, the 2k green brick polishes the secondary edges better than my 6k king... strange.
thanks guys, seems like i'de be better off not worrying about the 8k, that little post about what hones you need is what really made me think I should get an 8k though.

I've been experimenting with cbn sprays that I had from my knife sharpening, which I never used. They are awesome on razors though. I still feel like my razor is not where I want it. Its sharper now than it was from whippeddog but still doesn't tree top hairs as nicely as I thought they were supposed to, maybe i'm being too critical.

CBN will polish a bevel and straighten an edge to a high level, with very little tooth on the edge, because of the micro stria.

If you have fine hair, it may make hair test difficult and very user dependent and why, generally, hair test are inconsistent and not reflective of shaving potential.

That makes sense... when I try to use hair from my head for the free hanging hair test, the razor tugs on it just a little bit then bites it off. My head hair is very thin though, on videos I see the hair just exploding off the edges of their razors. I think you may be right. This has been a great forum so far! You guys are awesome, I feel more welcome here on straightrazor place than I ever did on Bladeforums... the guys over there are just a little too tense at times.

I consider Gary to be the "E.F. Hutton" of shavedom ... When he talks, people listen, and I'm one of them!

My SuperStones have been packed away for a looong time. I don't have a 10K, but I do have a 12K. I realize that it's a different animal than what's being discussed here, but I figured to give it another chance. Lord knows I've tried this in the past, always with the same result, a crispy shave! But, my beard has toughened since years ago, and it's always fun to take out a new stone and try it once again.
I haven't shaved with the blade yet .. I will tomorrow, but the experiment does bring back to mind what I liked, and didn't like about the Superstones. I like the nice crisp, shiny bevels, but I dislike how readily the "stone" picks up sticky swarf, and it's propensity for "coming alive," and losing it's flatness when wet. Minor problems, maybe, but somethings naturals do not suffer, and at no cost To keenness.

It's tough for any stone to outdo, or even equal my prized La Veinnette or Salm coticules ... even real Eschers or Japanese Naturals. I know many may argue that fact, and they may have different results, but on my face, it's just remarkable what a shaveable and face friendly edge these stones produce.

I remember something I read by an old friend, Denny .... "Sometimes we're chasin' the wrong side of sharp." Ain't it the truth!

Well guys I got my bran new Naniwa 12k, larger size and did some honing of razors, and knives on it. I lapped it up with an atoma 400 plate.

Now everyone was telling me that the 12k was much harder than the 10k... I disagree...
No matter what brand of stone you buy, generally the finer the grit, the harder the stone. They become more dense. Its barely harder than my 10k! I'm surprised at how quickly it lapped... I mean the diamond plate shredded the thing! Left a milky mud.
I REALLY like the stone, like my 10k as well. Definitely was worth the 100 bucks. It sounds dumb but... it took my dovo to that last bit of refinement I needed before stropping it to death... and finally I got a blade that can pass the hanging hair test with my ultra thin head hair!

I'm sure that happened just because my skills on razors is progressing but I am happy, thanks for the advice to jump to it. I still think I am going to pick up an 8k as well...

I know this does not belong here but I recently got a razor called a "zimmer cutlery" its an older faux framback razor that appears to have been a 1/4 hollow grind... its practically a flat grind the way it is now though. Were these good or crappy razors? anyone know abouts when they were made? It does say Germany on it.
I can't find anything on it in google. Thanks dudes!