OK so I'm working this beast now. 3 hrs to get a bevel. 'Took alot of effort for the toe. Since then, tried the 4k norton w/ slurry, then water. Same w/ the 8k. Heel & toe were sharp, lopping hairs but the middle was nowhere. Back to 4k, then coti, then another coti, then back to 4k. Sheesh. 'No surprise the honorable hammer had trouble w/ this one.