Thread: Kamisori panic

The bevel looks completly symetrical but its not sharp by my standards which im sure are not that high

In the end looks like i have to jump in to the water with my current set up as im not going to fork out the fortune in jap stones!!!!!

Originally Posted by tinkersd

1st of all, congradulations on you fine score!! There is a lot of lore about honing and shaving with a Nihon Kamisori, Just keep reading everything you can download and watch all the vid's above. Your best bet is to find some one who is experienced in this kind of honing and let them do the 1st hone of you new razor.
Then you will know exactly what a decent edge should feel and shave like.

That's my tupence, have a great shave one me!!!!

tinkersd

Im not that new to cut throats, but this is my first purchase of this calidad, i have a good idea where it should be, (the edge) just have a doubt as to the ability of my stones( 12/16k max) and myself to take it there!!!!

Originally Posted by Hoddy

Ok just recieved a new iwasaki kamisori, its perfect but not shave ready. I dont want to destroy something so beautiful, before i even shave with it!!!!
So my question is, how do i hone it in the least abrasive manner possible, but still effective. I have shapton pro 8 and 16k. Id send it to glen but i live in spain

You can send to to Lynn. He is closer.

Just like thank every body for their 2cents, always welcome advice,,,, im going swimming !!!!

http://strazors.com/uploads/images/a...onkamisori.pdf

I have found this guide helpful, in addition to all of the guidance found in this forum.

Cheers,

Jack

I am trying to think of Honer's in EU that do Kamisori honing but I just can't off the top of my head, Neil Miller, and maybe Jamie/Celtic Crusader would be the first two I would PM and ask...

That is if you don't want to try it yourself, IMHO if the bevel is set then a Kamisori is easier to hone, if not then you better know what you are doing or prepare to waste some steel learning

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I am trying to think of Honer's in EU that do Kamisori honing but I just can't off the top of my head, Neil Miller, and maybe Jamie/Celtic Crusader would be the first two I would PM and ask...

That is if you don't want to try it yourself, IMHO if the bevel is set then a Kamisori is easier to hone, if not then you better know what you are doing or prepare to waste some steel learning

Maksim is in Denmark and hones razors.
Link to his honing service add on his site
Service

Originally Posted by mainaman

Maksim is in Denmark and hones razors.
Link to his honing service add on his site
Service

Hopefully he will pipe in and say if he does Kamisori style razors as I am not seeing that on the page..

Originally Posted by DFriedl

Yes, mine was new. I did two 7:1 sets on my barber hone and about six 7:1 sets on my Chinese natural finishing hone. These were just the hones that I have. You could probably do the same on the two hones you mentioned and be fine.

These were with less pressure (which was only applied to the edge) for each set. I tried to follow Glen's procedure.

How did it shave?

Since this is 2012 I think the rules are changing.
A new razor might be well honed by modern standards
so any style razor may only need stropping or perhaps
a touch up with a very light hand.

It is possible that a new razor will need as much work
at the above videos but today with modern hones and
if available a well selected finisher a good razor should be
ready to go with way less work than the videos show.

I say this because after a shave test it is possible to
go back to the hones.

In my quick scan I did not see a comment about hardness.
It is safe to assume that a Japanese razor has been delivered
with steel that is much harder than European style razors.
Hard and brittle like glass and inclined to chip but for the
differences in geometry it would not work.

Note that Glen commented that starting at 8K was a
good idea and that he used a select Coticle which can be kinder
at the same time as it cuts steel well.

Without experience be gentle and conservative
and things should work out. It just may take a
dozen gentle attempts when a honemaster
will take exactly the correct tool and have
at it in an optimum way.