Thread: Odd Flattening on Spine

gssixgun,
I have worked with metals extensively in my machinist days, often having a hand honed tolerance of +or- .0005 of an inch. I understand that this is in no way the same as putting a hollow ground razor to a stone, but i am familiar with what is happening to the materials. I did not actually 'hone' the razor. i put it to the hone and attempted to lay it flat to find that the issue was that the thick side of the spine did not allow it to sit flat. that is when i started asking for advice. As it is the weekend, i will not be able to contact the .com until monday, and was trying to find an alternate solution to sending it out. i have inspected the edge and (maybe im wrong in thinking this) feel as though i now have a high quality practice razor that once i get it honed up i will have an excellent shaver. as much as it is not advised anywhere i read, i find a great deal of satisfaction doing things myself.

i feel i may just send this one to Lynn and see what he does with it. as i mentioned above, i am not sour at the company who did it the first time. i have far more confidence in anyone who has honed before over my own abilities, but i would love to learn how to do it.

By the way gssixgun, thank you for all of your videos and forum posts, you have been a great source of information for me on my quest to shave the right way, i have definitely become a faceter-bater.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

BTW what hones are you using ???

I have a 5, 8, 12, set of Naniwa stones. i lapped them with 320 grit wet use sand paper on a piece of marble. i have yet to actually use them though.

Very Good answers

I am very impressed by the fact that you looked, measured, and ASKED before grinding on metal... If only all newbs would do the same

I would see what the vendor's answer is, then decide for yourself which way you want to go as you already stated ..

I will tell you those Bismark Dovo's are awesome shavers, when they are honed in correctly,, I LOVE getting them in to hone...

Good luck with it all, and thanks for letting me know somebody is watching the Vids

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I will tell you those Bismark Dovo's are awesome shavers, when they are honed in correctly,, I LOVE getting them in to hone...

I think Glen is Hinting to something here

If you feel confident I would try this yourself, nothing like learning to hone from actually experience! But it's safer for the razor to send it out. And learning to hone on a razor with a problem just adds more difficultly to something that's hard to get right in good situations. Might be cool if you lived close to a honer if you go there with your razor in person. I wish I could have that Opportunity.

Could you send real pictures of the blade that shows what's happening? But your drawing was good...

Nathaniel

Originally Posted by 111Nathaniel

Could you send real pictures of the blade that shows what's happening? But your drawing was good...

Nathaniel

I have had much support from this thread, thank you to all. I have formed a plan of action and will be carrying it out monday. But just to show everyone what the flat spot i am talking about looks like, i will post actual pics either tonight or tomorrow.

We all love getting Bismarcks in nice condition to hone

Fyi though, it is definitely a change going from a shavette to a 6/8 straight. You can get away with much more an open angle shaving with the shavette. The 6/8 Definitely needs a vertical approach.

Have fun.

Good to know you're getting it handled. If it makes you feel any better, I think all but one of the razors i use have more wear at the toe than heel & they've all been honed only once or twice each. Some smile is generally a good thing in a razor, so my plan is to just let them continue developing in that direction.

Originally Posted by Lynn

We all love getting Bismarcks in nice condition to hone

Good, Because it will be on its way to SRD monday! It will be a pleasure knowing that the ''Guru of facial Guillotine's'' will have honed my razor.

Originally Posted by Lynn

The 6/8 Definitely needs a vertical approach.

I assume by vertical you mean more parallel to my face, maybe a 20 degree angle from laying flat on my skin?

That will work. When starting out with a straight, the tendency is to bend your wrist back especially in the chin area, opening up the angle.

Have fun

Attachment 105883 I think what has happened is the honer used a heal leading stroke, which would not place the entire spine in contact expecially on a shoulderless grind like the bismark. I surmise your machining experience caused you to inspect the razor, figure there was a problem and try to fix it. Now you might be skilled with a shavette, but how skilled are you at stroping? I suspect the edge could have been rolled in your attempt to strop it fixed. Edit: To have wear as far down the spine as you show you would like, you will nead to use a toe leading honing stroke.