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    Dear Fellow Members-Been trying to hone a nice EBay razor and having no luck doing the Pyramid from 4K to 8K with no tape and with tape. Should I try going down to 1K and try 20 strokes there? Never honed anything at 1K and thought that it was best reserved for butter knive edges. Still a newb!

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    If you have a 1K, use that to set the bevel. I do circle strokes with some pressure. Then I do circle strokes with no pressure. Then I finish with x strokes. Oh, and I don't even count my laps. Once the whole edge passes the TPT, then I move on to higher grits. Once you get the bevel set good, that makes the rest of the honing process much easier.
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    Have you set the bevel on the razor? I will only use my 1K to set bevels and then move to the pyramid.

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    Any eBay special I will set the bevel on a 1k before doing anything else.

    As to how many laps that is really determined by your edge test. I use the TNT as my primer test and follow that by arm hair. I do the TNT probably ever 15-20 laps to see where the edge is at. Once I get a good TNT I will do 5 more laps and test on arm hair. After that I move to the pyramid on my water stones.

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    Allow me to recommend using a Sharpie Marker on your bevel to make sure it is a complete bevel. This is standard equipment at my sharpening bench.

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    Another good visual aid is a loupe or microscope but you need to know what you're looking for.
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    Before you frustrate yourself with honing, spend a few hours reading about bevel setting & re-read the Library section on honing.

    I find the "Advanced Search" feature, above right, a valuable tool. Go to it, put in the "Key Word" section, words like bevel setting, honing with a 1k.

    If I had to sharpen my butter knives, it would be on a Carborundum stone under 300, progress up, then I would finish her off on a 1000.

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    Dear Fellow Razorheads-Thank you all for the quick and detailed replies! Honestly, the only honing videos I have viewed only go down to 4K-I have YET to use my Norton 1K-it's virgin!
    I do have a decent 30X loupe, but don't know what to look for other than a uniform smooth bevel with no jagged edges.Don't know how to use a Sharpie and would appreciate any additional information using a marker.
    Skippy, I guess that the TNT determines when one moves past the 1K? Once past the 1K and at 4K, can one then peform pyramid honing? I understand that 15-20 strokes at 4K is a good # to initiate the Pyramid honing technique?
    Take care all.Will keep you posted-Gearhead-PS-Just edited all of this information and printed it for reference
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    If the 1K is virgin, make sure it is lapped prior to use.
    The Sharpie is applied to the edge to show you what you are hitting and missing.
    Under a loupe (I prefer and need only 10X), look at the edge itself. When you can still see it, you haven't completed bevel-setting.
    Plenty of information on the Pyramid technique is in the Library.

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    Thanx Ace! Lapped the edges, if that's what you mean
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