Just received my Gokumyo 20000 hone from Stu today. I am not the most experienced honer in the world but thanks to Gssixgun and his videos, I can get a pretty nice edge off a norton 8K. I have not had very good luck following up with a Naniwa 12K finisher. Tried the Gokumyo 20K today with 20X strokes after the 8K and WOW!!!! What an edge. It shaved with a smoothness that I have only experienced with a pro honing my razor with a coticule. I am delighted with this finishing hone and it seems easy for me to get the finished edge I had always attempted to achieve.

John