Thread: The Stub-Tailed Shavers

[QUOTE=ScienceGuy;1466500]

Originally Posted by gooser

Those look like pressed horn. There are many examples of that pressed ribbed pattern around.

I agree, I think hey are pressed horn.

Originally Posted by engine46

Here's my John Barber Pre 1823 Straight Razor W/Spanish point. It was in 1823 when Barber was granted his Masonic trademark. Barber had cautioned the public against fraudulent razor's being made using his name but I suspect this is the real deal with the wide tang & scale inlay.

It's also mentioned that people used Iohn Barber instead of John Barber as another kind of fraud.

I think yours isn't a J. Barber, but a Iohn

Originally Posted by Thaeris

It's also mentioned that people used Iohn Barber instead of John Barber as another kind of fraud.

I think yours isn't a J. Barber, but a Iohn

I suspected that. I was trying to make myself believe it wasn't stamped right or that it was worn. Do you recall where you saw that? if so, please let me know. If it is, they were quality craftsmen but I guess they were passing them off as one of his since he was well known & they in fact never made a name for themselves which they could have.
It appears to have been a quality piece in its time, even with the wide, beefy tang on it. I would like to see that so that I could show the seller & get a partial refund back from the them or just send it back.The seller might have even been aware of that but passed it on like a J. Barber anyway. I have it in my Tweeddale's that he was in fact cautioning the public about some frauds turning up with his name on them.

Originally Posted by engine46

I suspected that. I was trying to make myself believe it wasn't stamped right or that it was worn. Do you recall where you saw that? if so, please let me know. If it is, they were quality craftsmen but I guess they were passing them off as one of his since he was well known & they in fact never made a name for themselves which they could have.
It appears to have been a quality piece in its time, even with the wide, beefy tang on it. I would like to see that so that I could show the seller & get a partial refund back from the them or just send it back.The seller might have even been aware of that but passed it on like a J. Barber anyway. I have it in my Tweeddale's that he was in fact cautioning the public about some frauds turning up with his name on them.

I doubt that the seller new anything about it other than what was stamped and what the most basic research provided. I think it's all the more interesting if it is a false Barber! It isn't that often that you find those, and they were still of great quality manufacture.

Interesting with the Iohn Barber, as opposed to John Barber, so who or what are the razors marked, "I.Barber"?

I had always thought that the "I" instead of "J" was only used when the stamping was used as a first initial and not as a name like
I.Barber instead of J.Barber but I don't know and really didn't even think about the difference in Steve's razor , it does appear to be a distinct "I" though , interesting !!

Originally Posted by ScienceGuy

I doubt that the seller new anything about it other than what was stamped and what the most basic research provided. I think it's all the more interesting if it is a false Barber! It isn't that often that you find those, and they were still of great quality manufacture.

I agree my friend. Martin does as well.

I Barber .....I think this is a stub-tailed.

Originally Posted by Willisf

I Barber .....I think this is a stub-tailed.

yep , stubby enough for me ..lol..

btw do you have any closer pics of the "I.BARBER" ?? yours looks more like a "J" on my screen

Originally Posted by gooser

yep , stubby enough for me ..lol..

btw do you have any closer pics of the "I.BARBER" ?? yours looks more like a "J" on my screen

I just looked at through a loupe..... It's an "I" .... But in a way it does look look like a "J"