Thread: Bakkus VG10 7/8 for 69.99

Originally Posted by Talossos

Sorry but I have to comment here. If you would have not been so quick to judge you would have found out (by visiting and reading the seller's site) that this razor was originally discussed, named (yes in Dutch.... not German) and tested on a Dutch shaving forum, all in good understanding and acceptance by many forum members over there, as the main market would have been the Netherlands. The name has a nice ring to it, and has a funny old Dutch meaning, something that matches the razor well. This is even mentioned on the website, with a link the forum etc. Dutch people or any other non-English speaking people can name a product whatever they want, no matter where the product is made. Some Dutch folks (yes Dutch, not the oh so bad lawless Chinese, and I am 100% Dutch) suggested to introduce it to non-Dutch people who might be interested in it. Hence the site. Moreover, there hasn't been made any claim that this razor is made in Germany or whatever. In fact nobody cared were its made. Simply making the conclusion that some Chinese are selling these things to mislead people... reeks of xenophobia or something.

Just take it for what it is... a simple rugged razor. Referring to sweatshops, making sneering remarks towards Chinese, laws etc. and telling to name a product in the language were its coming from is quite silly.

Well, thats quite helpful, but a link to the site/forum you mention would make it more so, a translation of the salient points and concensus even more, and country of origin yet more helpful.

Regards,
Neil

Hi Neil, I will send a PM. Thanks. (they don't like links here)

Thanks Talossus.

I got weary of reading pages of comments in the pidgin english google renders in lieu of a translation, though, when all I wanted to know was who the maker is and where the factory is situated.

From the few mangled pages I did manage to wade through, I gather that it is forged and ground in Holland by a dutch company - correct?

My primary concern was that it is not like the last new marque we read about - a razor said to be made in one country by the (non-)maker who lives in another country who actually imports the razors ready made from a third country that he sends to a friend in a fourth country for modification before being sent back to the second country to have the (non-)makers mark put on them.

Get the idea? Not an unreasonable thing, is it, to question the provenance of something before spending money on it.

Regards
Neil

Originally Posted by Talossos

Sorry but I have to comment here. If you would have not been so quick to judge you would have found out (by visiting and reading the seller's site) that this razor was originally discussed, named (yes in Dutch.... not German) and tested on a Dutch shaving forum, all in good understanding and acceptance by many forum members over there, as the main market would have been the Netherlands. The name has a nice ring to it, and has a funny old Dutch meaning, something that matches the razor well. This is even mentioned on the website, with a link the forum etc. Dutch people or any other non-English speaking people can name a product whatever they want, no matter where the product is made. Some Dutch folks (yes Dutch, not the oh so bad lawless Chinese, and I am 100% Dutch) suggested to introduce it to non-Dutch people who might be interested in it. Hence the site. Moreover, there hasn't been made any claim that this razor is made in Germany or whatever. In fact nobody cared were its made. Simply making the conclusion that some Chinese are selling these things to mislead people... reeks of xenophobia or something.

Just take it for what it is... a simple rugged razor. Referring to sweatshops, making sneering remarks towards Chinese, laws etc. and telling to name a product in the language were its coming from is quite silly.

Sorry but I also have to comment that if you were to dig just a touch deeper that it is a re-labeled "Titan" razor and can be purchased all day long at 1/2 that price on e-bay.. Ordering in bulk drops the price even farther..

Many of us vendors get the same e-mails with offers to purchase this Chinese and Pakistani stuff everyday.. I can order the exact same razor stamped with "Gssixgun Rocks" for quite the price if I buy 100, the price gets stupid cheap if I want 1000... BTW If I want to order just the steel and I add the Scales then I can legally have them stamped "Made in the USA"


@Neil, it is that exact same razor we were discussing 2 months ago

It is indeed, Glen.

PS - I get those emails too about purchasing razors (and scissors, strops, DEs etc, etc) - very revealing, aren't they?! Buying enough units (and it doesn't have to be that many, 10 or a hundred will do it) sometimes drops the price per unit to something quite eaxtra-ordinary, like $5 a hit).

Regards,
Neil

Originally Posted by Talossos

Sorry but I have to comment here.

Well, I have a comment to make as well.

1. This is not your first account on this site. Not even your second one.
2. You have repeatedly violated the rules of the site.
3. You have deliberately been misleading even deceiving that you are in fact the vendor behind these razors. Your original account you used to do market research for the brand here is still active, but you are opening more accounts not disclosing your involvement.
4. The only interest you have demonstrated in this community, again, and again is to benefit yourself monetarily.

Actions have consequences and we have been more than patient with you, giving you multiple chances to change your ways.
I have banned this latest account of yours too, and I am telling you again - stop reregistering on this site. You are not welcome here.