Thread: What is considered "vintage" in a SR?

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Twenty years ago feels like 'just the other day' when you're 65. The stuff that was made before I was born, or before I was old enough to be interested, is the stuff that I call vintage, classic or what have you. I guess it is a matter of perspective. That changes depending on where we're sitting relative to the 'obscure object of desire.'

Jimmy, Lyle Tuttle is 82 yrs old and still works at times,Your just a kid,me too

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Jimmy, Lyle Tuttle is 82 yrs old and still works at times,Your just a kid,me too

Haven't spoken with Lyle in a couple of years, but last time I did he was still going strong. Here is Lyle 20 years ago, visiting a shop I worked in. I'm 2nd from the left and Lyle is Lyle. I've also got some marks tattooed by Lyle, but I've kept mine. Tattoo Lou Rubino in the blue shirt with the gloves and his son kneeling. 'Seems like just the other day.' (to the tune of "Almost Cut My Hair" ).....

Wonderfull Pic,thanks for posting Jim

Originally Posted by johnmrson

Anything more than 100 years old is an antique...

Perspective and object.

Automobiles qualify for antique tags in my state at 25 years.

Also depends upon if you are buying or selling. (That's the difference between a pond and a lake.)

So "Vintage" pretty much means "old enough to be interesting" but not quite old enough to be properly called "Antique". Sometimes it's clapped out crap, other times it's NOS! Caveat Emptor.

If I purchased it, it's new, if my father purchased it it's old, If my grandfather purchased it it's vintage, If my great grandfather purchased it, we have an antique. At some point we get artifact, then early example of crude cutting tool, last we have evidence of early primitive man. My wife thinks that describes me and my straight razor, so that brings us full circle

I think adding vehicles to the list is misleading. There are many considerations for vehicles, parts availability, emissions testing, and lastly additional revenue for the state for that antique plate. They are incentivized to make that hurdle not too difficult. On top of that, I can buy brand new production parts to assemble a '32 Ford...

Compare to airplanes, nothing is antique if it was produced post WWII, then vintage 1946-1956, then classic...lately they have even added modern classic.

Looks like the only way to get standardized classifications for straights is to get the ISO to set them. Wouldn't hold my breath on that one though.

Bob

Originally Posted by Phrank

I actually just looked the word up, the only formal application of the word, "vintage", is when considering wines.

It's informal usage, is, "Informal a. A group or collection of people or things sharing certain characteristics. b. A year or period of origin: a car of 1942 vintage. c. Length of existence; age."

So, I hope this complicates things further....glad to help!

Phrank you are a priceless member here!

Originally Posted by 10Pups

And Classic is over 20.

My definition. Anything older than me is vintage (not circa) which is a term I like more than all the descriptions. Could everybody else just get on board ? :<0)

Anything older than me is dirt

Originally Posted by Splashone

I think adding vehicles to the list is misleading...

Please note that I was responding to the notion that "anything..." Anything is an all-inclusive term.

Remember 99.9 percent of the population has no idea that straights or even DE's are still in production. Such that sellers of such things in junk/antique/online/vintage shops automatically think any such crude device _is_ from another era. Most of them are just flipping items. Buy low, sell high is the successful model there. They haven't "studied" the differences in the terms scholastically, only in the marketplace. I don't think the UCC covers this, so muddy the waters shall always be.

I've never been in an antiques mall that wasn't loaded with non-antique things. There are no Antiques Police who patrol the malls to control "mislabeled" merchandise, or "approve" the changes in price/label the day an item "turns 100".

not Overheard in the mall:

Oh no, Ginger that's only 98. Wait two years (then it'll be Antique)...or in the alternative:
Oh yes Ginger, let's buy it now-it'll be worth so much more in 2 years when it turns 100.

The term "vintage" sounds much nicer than "old shit" so that's what they tend to call their not-antique-yet stuff. It's just sales. I used to be in the antiques mall biz. We sold a lot of old shit.

Buy what you like, hone it superkeen, enjoy. Call it whatever your heart desires-and note that sellers do the same.