Thread: Crown & No.1 brass inlays - any info anyone?

G'day all,
I recently aquired my 2nd Stub tail, this nice looking little 5/8" with a brass Crown & a No.1 inlays.
the only blade markings are Silver steel, no manufacturer etc present
I’ve been searching the net and can't seem to find any info on it or similar.
the closest I got was a Stub tail on here with crown & an anchor inlay
1 scale is the light horn with the inlays the other is a black horn, so I am not sure which is the replacement if either is
if anyone has any info or could shead some light on it it would be great
sorry for the photos they are the sellers, as it is rejuvinating in the neetsfoot bath this week

I can't tell you any thing about the razor, but by the way it is shaped I think it was made in the 1700's. Also it is an awesome looking razor.

I think it was made in the 1700's

That's way too early for this razor. It's Silver Steel, and that in it's own right commands a date of later than 1820.

The razor is stamped in English, And I'm going to assume it is English. (all speculation from this point).

The crown looks to be a house Hanover crown. It was the crown at the top of the royal coat of arms from 1816-1837. This would fit the design of the razor pretty well.



Queen Victoria's coat of arms and crown is distinctly different.



This would mean the razor is from between 1820 and 1837.

That's my best guess anyway, I might be way off the mark.

Thanks Iceni all input helps
my other stub is I believed older in the 1700's as it is a Acier Fondu which made me think this was a newer also with it being in english as Silver Steel.
the box throws me off also, as it seams a lot newer but it is marked with Luna Mono 1 on the front which might just be a lucky match with the number??

Here's one quite similar, definitely newer than the OP's
Wostenholm & Co No 80 WEST STREET

I dunno the crown on the scale appears to be one representing a female monarch. The female crown has two distinct humps with the cross on top and the male crown has an arch with the cross on top. I hope this link works https://www.google.ca/search?client=...2F%3B399%3B207

Bob

I think you've got it , Bob.


Sovereign’s Cypher

I can't be 100% sure but I think the box is much later.

My Joseph Elliot came with a partial box that looks to be embossed and painted. That razor I suspect is 1850 ish.

It might be worth looking up the printing method used of the label. It looks to be the same style as my 1900-1930 Bismarck boxes. And from what I can tell those box labels are done with etched plate lithography via a rotary press. It puts the technology to do that style of printing at 1850 at the very earliest. Before 1850 and probably for 10-15 years after that date letterpress printing was the only way to print. I belive you can do multiple colours with a letter press, but they have to be done a colour at a time, and getting the colours in key would have been very hard. Letterpress would have also needed a plate made just for the black boarder white relief text. Litho rotary presses on the other hand would have no special requirement for that black boarder white relief text.

Wullie I don't think the Cypher is as easy as this crown is a kings crown, If you look into the history of the cypher kings and queens swap at random. I also don't think cyphers date as well as a coat of arms. With a coat of arms you have the royal seal as it were, A cypher is more like a royal signature.


http://canadiancrown.gc.ca/eng/13318.../1331831539101

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca...United_Kingdom

Originally Posted by Wullie

Here's one quite similar, definitely newer than the OP's
Wostenholm & Co No 80 WEST STREET

Nice looking blade Wullie there is a lot less detail in the crown also on mine without the inner items like yours has?
thanks for the link BobH
but the small circle below the top cross is different to the once above & in the link ?

Ah, no expert on crowns but remember being told that a Regina crown was recognizable because it had breasts and that sorta sticks in your mind. Where is Neil Miller when you need him?

Bob