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12-13-2014, 02:03 AM #1
I agree that the bickering needs to stop. Unfortunately, it seems to be part of the forum thing... This one, believe it or not, has less of it that just about any I've ever seen. Even college fan sites have more bickering amongst fans OF THE SAME TEAM than here... But, yeah
As to the pictures. I hope you don't mean me with the coyness. I'm passing on what I found. The people who I know with connections to Solingen say Filarmonicas came from Herkenrath blanks, as did many, many other types of blades. This from first hand accounts from old men who lived through the boom. Without being able to provide pictures of invoices, a lot of people don't believe it. Fine. But, the pictures I got were purported to be genuine article by a person that doesn't hang out on these forums. So, we can either choose to believe it or not. I believe it because I know the guy, and I know his background. Believe it or not. I can't offer proof, but I offered pictures that at the very least show the story retold by the old guys as being plausible... That's the point of the thread
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12-13-2014, 02:58 AM #2
Yep. Insults, namecalling, references to wives and their opinions really have no place.
Easy to see truths, facts, and fallacies . Discuss, disagree, but a rotton thread seems to spoil the forum.
Let's not."Don't be stubborn. You are missing out."
I rest my case.
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12-13-2014, 03:22 AM #3
Related, I just did a Yahoo search for pics and factory info on Filarmonica in Spain. Came up empty with exception of written words. In the razor world, many were, and are, credited for making what they bought and sold. Carl Monkhouse comes to mind. DublDuck, etc.
Some pics of Filarmonicas being produced, verifiably, in Spain would be handy. The factory was shuttered not so far back, as razors go. Certainly there would be evidence/witnesses around us!
Not saying it does not exist. Dumb old me just could not find it easily!Last edited by sharptonn; 12-13-2014 at 03:26 AM.
"Don't be stubborn. You are missing out."
I rest my case.
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12-13-2014, 03:25 AM #4
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12-13-2014, 03:37 AM #5
I have a question, I'm not a lawyer, but we all know that after the 1890 act that required the country of origin mark, for instance, Wade and Butcher razors being marked with or without the England stamp being used to determine the date range.
Many of the Filarmonica's have, "Made in Spain" stamped on them. If in fact they were made in Germany, which I'm completely open to, wouldn't they be marked, "Made in Germany", or perhaps the Solingen mark would indicate country of manufacture?
Now, I just went and looked at a few of my Filarmonica's, I looked at two DT's, one has, "Made in Spain" stamped on one side of the tang with the JMP Doble Temple on the other side, and the other has the JMP Doble Temple, but on the other side, where the, "Made in Spain" mark is on the other one, it is blank - no mark - nothing?
Interesting?
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12-13-2014, 03:39 AM #6
Then you've got one original & someboby else slipped you a Gold Dollar,,,,
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12-13-2014, 03:46 AM #7
IIRC the stipulation to mark country of origin on cutlery stemmed from a treaty, and was not an international law ....... AFAIK. Still most of them did adhere to it ....... AFAIK. Now Solingen themselves had stipulations that were laws, as to what cutlery could be marked 'made in Solingen' based on the region where the item was manufactured, and I'm betting they were stringent in enforcing that.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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12-13-2014, 03:30 AM #8
We're all gentlemen here, I presume, so let's behave as such. Many companies made 'good' razors, how important is it where the blanks were sourced from ? It is a matter only for the cognoscenti to be interested in.
For most of us the razor either delivers the goods, or it doesn't regardless of the name stamped, or etched, on the tang. So please keep it civil. No aspersions cast as to one another's mental health or possible nefarious motives. It's a razor/shaving forum so let's keep on topic please ..... and the thread won't be closed.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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12-13-2014, 03:36 AM #9
While the nature of your concerns in the thread are 100% on point, I do think it is interesting for one very important reason. It seems that I got caught up in brands early on and attributed qualities to the razor's steel based on the brand. However, if the blanks came from the same forge, with the same people doing all the QC throughout the process, it seems that all of those differences were likely in my head. It sort of demystifies things a bit. The more money I spent, the more I started to realize that apart from aesthetics, there *really* wasn't that much difference after all in all of these things.
I'm a huge nerd though, and I don't mind focusing in on a subject and discussing it ad nauseum. When it gets tedious, I'm happy to take the discussion offline or just ponder it myself. No big dealLast edited by richmondesi; 12-13-2014 at 03:57 AM.
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12-13-2014, 08:25 AM #10
Guys, personal attacks and insults have no place here, and neither do replies that are intentionally designed to be provocative. Calling people's mental health into question in a public forum is just as bad. No matter how expensive the words that are used, I think we can all agree that that line of discussion is not going to be productive or in good spirit. And you know that in advance so just don't.
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