Thread: New Razor Designs

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

If you can, teaching yourself is the best way ---- I kind of have issue with authority figures and by-and-by usually end up teaching myself (due to my personality). But really I can't understand how it can be any other way -- you have a brain, the essentials of communication (reading and such), books etc, and a will and you're on your way. Plus when you teach yourself you tend to make mistakes more which is the best way to learn. Just believe in yourself mon ami .

Justin

I agree too! I just wish more of my students had your attitude Justin

James.

PS That Darrel whatshisname does what I think look like industrial-type razors, but they do have a bit of namby-pamby embellishment here and there...

Originally Posted by JMS

I agree 100%!!!
I have found for myself though when I do learn on my own there is a lingering insecurity about whether I am doing properly or not, but that usually clears its self up in no time!!

Yeah --- I understand --- it is nice to have some fundamentals defined by people in the know ---- plus, as you've mentioned I've been in embarrassing situations where I knew the mechanics of something but my terminology wasn't up to par --- it can be hard convincing people you really know when you don't recognize the exact name of something ---- that insecure feeling I can appreciate as well --- but it's the sign of an active, working, thoughtful brain. (Intelligence gives you much to consider and worry about).


Justin

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

... (Intelligence gives you much to consider and worry about).


Justin

It is a curse that few of us fully appreciate, my friend...

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

PS That Darrel whatshisname does what I think look like industrial-type razors, but they do have a bit of namby-pamby embellishment here and there...

I think the materials are industrial but how about them MOP gold lip etc. So I'd say he combines industrial with something else.

I may get flames for this but a quote from Tim Gun (Project Runway show) summarizes my opinion: "I appreciate what you're doing. Do I love it - no." No offense meant whatsoever, I just am looking for something else

Now, industrial can be bad in my book too - I do love hand-made craftsman individual works (the opposite of industrial in many senses)

Cheers
Ivo

Originally Posted by Jimbo

It is a curse that few of us fully appreciate, my friend...

James.

I knew I liked you!!

Originally Posted by JMS

I see Matt proved my point in regards to schooling!!
Although when one is capable I think it is infinately better to be self taught. you remain yourself instead of becoming somebody elses drone!!

Always happy to help

But seriously, this is why we were taught by doing at my school. Our teachers alway encouraged us to figure out our own ways of doing things. To break the rules and expand current ideas. We were always taught and encouraged to be the idea guys and not just mindless designers for somebody else's ideas. Many designers are not capable of free thinking, and become lackies for big marketing firms. Some ad guy comes up with all the ideas, and they just make them visual. Where is the creativity in that? I hope I never become one of said drones.

Matt

Originally Posted by izlat

Was that a - gasp - quote from Thumbelina?

I understand better now too - industrial is good. Modern - bad (as it relates to shaving implements, I mean)

Cheers
Ivo

Ivo --- don't make me come over there ---- (that was funny though )


Justin

Originally Posted by Kentriv

Always happy to help

But seriously, this is why we were taught by doing at my school. Our teachers alway encouraged us to figure out our own ways of doing things. To break the rules and expand current ideas. We were always taught and encouraged to be the idea guys and not just mindless designers for somebody else's ideas. Many designers are not capable of free thinking, and become lackies for big marketing firms. Some ad guy comes up with all the ideas, and they just make them visual. Where is the creativity in that? I hope I never become one of said drones.

Matt

I don't get the impression that you are a drone, and in fact nobody is until they stop questioning and wondering!!

For me this isn't a knock on formal education ---- it's about an attitude -- take full advantage of your resources --teachers, equipment, etc but in the end no one can teach you without your involvement ---- you will teach yourself ultimately in the end -- people can point you in a direction but it's all you


Am I sounding like fricken Thumbelina again ? ---- (you hurt my feelings)

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

Ivo --- don't make me come over there ---- (that was funny though )


Justin

Sorry, Justin - cheap shot, you walked onto this one yourself and I just couldn't resist... I guess staying involved with kids pays in many ways

Cheers
Ivo