Thread: Hart Custom

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Originally Posted by RobinK

Incidentally, people keep saying the exact same thing about Gold Dollar razors. Only, a GD will cost US$2.26, ie 1/100th of a Hart razor.

If price was the only concern would anyone have more than one razor, soap, strop or brush? I thought values were not discussed on SRP.

Originally Posted by gflight

Murrica is a slang term used to degrade southern Americans as unintelligent.

From my understanding of the term, it's more to refer to all American's as rabid, unthinking patriots who rampage through Europe and the rest of the world, telling everyone that America is number #1, chanting USA over and over again, being rude, and comparing anything and everything encountered that is different as inferior.

It would be akin in my opinion to meeting a German for the first time and saying, "Not a great razor, doesn't take an edge well....invade Poland lately?"

I think we've lost the thread of this thread. Is your Hart razor shave ready for you? Only you will know. If it's not, ask the retailer (or someone else) to re-hone it. Most it will cost is $30.

As an aside, it wouldn't be my choice because there are too many others new and vintage that have proven "shave-ability" and good edge comfort & retention that I prefer. (apologies to Robin, Gold Dollars are not one of them). But I don't have a Hart, so I may like it if I tried one. The question is will you be happy with yours. No one can predict.

Originally Posted by Phrank

From my understanding of the term, it's more to refer to all American's as rabid, unthinking patriots who rampage through Europe and the rest of the world, telling everyone that America is number #1, chanting USA over and over again, being rude, and comparing anything and everything encountered that is different as inferior.

It would be akin in my opinion to meeting a German for the first time and saying, "Not a great razor, doesn't take an edge well....invade Poland lately?"

Yea, my understanding of the term also and highly insulting too. Just as insulting as the term Canuckistan is to me. I can understand it raising hackles.

Bob

Let us brake this down to what is the essence of the OP's post, shall we?

It is not possible to say if it came shave ready to you or not.
As you said yourself in this thread, honers are humans.

If it doesn't shave well, return it to the vendor and have it re-honed.
Once properly honed a Hart razor will, like any other proper straight, shave and shave well.
I've honed dozens of them and all did the job just fine.

All else presented in this thread is safe to disregard...

Originally Posted by RobinK

Really, can we have a day without a personal attack?

Actually, it does. Just take a moment to analyse the threads about them, and most buyers will tell you that they bought them because they were made in America, by Americans. Nothing wrong with that, mind you. Many good things come out of America. Only, I see a wee problem when the fact who made a product where becomes the only feature to set this product apart. Which, in my limited experience, is the case with Hart razors.

And just to clarify, I was talking about "custom" razors, not "production". Dovo is the only company left who makes large quantities of razors. Ralf Aust is a one man operation - which makes Hart a production company by comparison. However, the whole "custom" point is somewhat moot when it comes to Hart. Because custom means "made specially for individual customers", which is, well, not quite the case. Hart razors are to custom razors what tailored garments are to bespoke ones.

Robin, I think discussing the definition of custom is as pointless as discussing the meaning of restoration with regards to razors. It seems that the definitions are interpretable by various people as meaning different things. I have a very clear idea of what these definitions should be but having had the discussion before it seems to not be universal.

A word about Hart razors ........ I've only had one, and it was a good razor. The edge was shave ready, but I felt it needed improvement, and I tended to that with my Escher.

On Hart razors in general ........ they were designed by none other than Tim Zowada. He and Classic wanted a more affordable alternative to his custom razors. If you look at the design it says Zowada all over it ....... including the scales.

In the beginning Tim trained the artisans who made the Hart razors. So while some may find the aesthetic of the Hart is not to their liking, this is why God made apples and oranges. One man's meat is another man's poison, one man's trash, another man's treasure.

When I got into the business of professional tattooing I began accumulating 'flash' (tattoo design sheets). To begin with I ordered designs that I personally liked. I soon realized that I was limiting the appeal my stock would have to the masses. Something I wouldn't consider appealing would be exactly what someone else was looking for.

So it is with any product. So it is with Hart razors. IMHO.

I have handled and honed several Hart razors and wasn't impressed. They are crude and unwieldy. I suspect many of their proud owners overlook the razor's shortcomings due to Buyer's Stockholm Syndrome.

Originally Posted by Badgister

I have handled and honed several Hart razors and wasn't impressed. They are crude and unwieldy. I suspect many of their proud owners overlook the razor's shortcomings due to Buyer's Stockholm Syndrome.

Yes but did they hone up well and take a good edge. I believe the OP was interested in that aspect.

Bob

[QUOTE=Haroldg48;1548348]I think we've lost the thread of this thread. Is your Hart razor shave ready for you? Only you will know. If it's not, ask the retailer (or someone else) to re-hone it. Most it will cost is $30.

As an aside, it wouldn't be my choice because there are too many others new and vintage that have proven "shave-ability" and good edge comfort & retention that I prefer. (apologies to Robin, Gold Dollars are not one of them). But I don't have a Hart, so I may like it if I tried one. The question is will you be happy with yours. No one can predict.
[/QUOTE I used a 6/8 Hart and Liked it. I actually, did contact Classic Shaving, and they ref me to Hart and this forum. LOL . I gave it a quick test and IMHO it needs to be sharpen. Also, today I shaved with a Masto Livi. Very smooth, very nice and very very, sharp IMHO]