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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmrson View Post
    The razor was made between 1891 and 1901.
    But what month ?

    Kidding aside John, is the 1901 date related to the 'their majesties' as opposed to something else ?
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    Did not I say around turn of century?
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    Thank you all for the help, that is a pretty narrow age range!

    On the same general topic... Did Joseph Rodgers and sons ever use celluloid? I am trying to buy a straight razor from a knife collecting friend and it seems like the scales are Bakelite or celluloid.

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    Lots of English makers used a form of celluloid about in this time frame and after, I think.
    Seems they called it Ivoroid or something else. Good stuff, harder and more stable than some cell.
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    That is good to know that it is better than the cell, rot worries me on a razor that old!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin103 View Post
    There one right here :http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...vapo-rust.html

    The address 6 Norfolk Street has nothing to do with dating this razor as they moved there in 1760.

    Country of origins after 1891.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Tell you something that is just my suspicion. I once had a 7 day set of black scaled Joseph Rodgers with the same 'Made In England' in the arc sideways at the end of the normal stamping. Almost as if it was applied as an afterthought.

    So my suspicion ........ guess ...... is that my 7 day set, and your blade, were made right at the time of the treaty requiring the country of origin stamping. They fit it where they had room to put it to conform to the new legalities. IMHO.
    Yeah, I noticed that also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    But what month ?

    Kidding aside John, is the 1901 date related to the 'their majesties' as opposed to something else ?
    Pretty sure he is referring to the "Their Majesties" stamp on the razor. Queen Victoria died in 1901, so any razors made after that date should be stamped "Cutler to his majesty" as her son Edward VII took over the throne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    But what month ?

    Kidding aside John, is the 1901 date related to the 'their majesties' as opposed to something else ?
    Yes. Queen Victoria died early 1901 so the phrase "for their Majesties" would not have been used past that date. Although Victoria was the hereditary Queen, she saw her husband as being equal in rank and gave him the title of Prince Consort, hence she used the term "for their Majesties" on pretty much everything that had a Royal Warrant.

    The Master Razors from Joseph Rogers usually came in pairs. I had a No2 a few years ago but it was pretty worn out. Still shaved very well though. Joseph Rogers was probably the premium razor maker in their day.
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    Woops. Wrong thread.
    Last edited by johnmrson; 12-29-2015 at 11:19 AM.
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