Thread: Wade & Butcher Comeback

Well your actions clearly say you have something against me Utopian & making it personal. Where is the same encouragement you asked me to have for Michael? Where are all your help & encouragement for me?
I was very excited on hearing Wade & Butcher were returning but on closer reading here, the razors will just be custom razors with the Wade & Butcher name on.
Already by looking at my past posts you are trying to blacken my name where you should be helping me. Shame on you!

Ps and others like me that are trying to set up own business.

The point i am making is not about me but about posting their business when i was not allowed, subtle or not.
The main debate i was stating is that his work WILL NOT BE Wade&Butcher, just the name that he has bought, nothing more.
I was referring to my business and others like me that this will affect in the long run.
So far i only see favouritism from you Utopian.
Again i wish him luck on his venture.
I have voiced my opinion as have you, lets leave it at that shall we.
Best regards
Gabe

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

The point i am making is not about me but about posting their business when i was not allowed, subtle or not.
The main debate i was stating is that his work WILL NOT BE Wade&Butcher, just the name that he has bought, nothing more.
I was referring to my business and others like me that this will affect in the long run.
So far i only see favouritism from you Utopian.
Again i wish him luck on his venture.
I have voiced my opinion as have you, lets leave it at that shall we.
Best regards
Gabe

I can't help thinking that the argument has got out of hand - if we go back to the original post it's plain that the thread was started with no knowledge as to who was behind it. Michael came in only to let people know what his plans are - so to claim some form of unfair pre-advertising on his part is just not the case. From what I can see there is nothing the moderators could take offence with.

Having said that, I agree with you that whatever is produced will be nothing more than a semi-custom razor with the W&B brand. While not criticising the plans or motivation behind them, I don't see much point in resurrecting the name. If the end product is good it will sell in competition against other modern custom makers. If it carries a premium just because of the brand, I think we are intelligent enough to see through that.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Well your actions clearly say you have something against me Utopian & making it personal.

I disagreed with you. Can you possibly understand that is not personal? Until THIS THREAD, I did not know you existed. The entirety of the basis of my response to what wrote was WHAT YOU WROTE. I disagreed with your opinion and that is all I knew about you at the time.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Where is the same encouragement you asked me to have for Michael?

I never asked you to offer any encouragement to Michael. You cannot twist things that way without being called out on it. That fact that I disagreed with your criticism of his endeavor cannot in any way be construed as my asking you to encourage him. That simply is an absurd claim.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Where are all your help & encouragement for me?

Seriously, are you that insecure? Again, my first knowledge of your existence was in THIS THREAD and in THIS THREAD I disagreed with your opinion. Why would I encourage an opinion that I disagree with? This is exactly the same logic by which I find it bizarre that you wish (sportsmanlike) luck to someone pursuing an endeavor with which you disagree. That would be equivalent to saying "hey I don't want to get shot but good luck with your aiming that gun at me."

Regarding helping you, are you kidding? Again, read the title of this thread. I've read enough of your other posts now to recognize that you have no problem asking for help, so if you need help on something, ask for it in another thread, not here.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

I was very excited on hearing Wade & Butcher were returning

Yeah right. I'm still trying to understand your logic in stating the following.
"In buying the W&B name, he is making "original" Wades more valuable which in turn making them harder to buy from sellers on Ebay and the likes that already ask a fortune from selling original Wades."
Regardless, I'm pretty sure that "excited" was not the right word for it given the criticism of his plan.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Already by looking at my past posts you are trying to blacken my name where you should be helping me. Shame on you!

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Seriously? If reading your past posts blackens your name, then maybe you should start changing what you post.

Utopian, i am not insecure, i am passionate about straights & esp Wades.
You are deliberately picking out paragraphs of my posts and scrutinising me trying to trip me up & make me look like a fool with insults to my intelligence. So yes, you have something against me and your making yourself look daft & silly, not intelligent or mentor like.
Picking up on my grammer and other things I have said only says to me that your butt hurt at what i have said.
If you feel you have to put me in my place because of this, only makes you look like a bully, nothing more because deep down you know i am right

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Utopian, i am not insecure, i am passionate about straights & esp Wades.
You are deliberately picking out paragraphs of my posts and scrutinising me trying to trip me up & make me look like a fool with insults to my intelligence. So yes, you have something against me and your making yourself look daft & silly, not intelligent or mentor like.
Picking up on my grammer and other things I have said only says to me that your butt hurt at what i have said.
If you feel you have to put me in my place because of this, only makes you look like a bully, nothing more because deep down you know i am right

I have not insulted your intelligence. I disagreed with you. I'm not trying to trip you up. I am disagreeing with you. Can you understand the difference? I'm not obligated to encourage you or your business and I cannot grasp why you would criticize me for failing to do so.

I also don't understand why you persist in making things up. I defy you to produce one instance in which I made any reference to your grammar.

I disagreed with your opinion and trust me, deep down I still disagree with you.

I have no clue as to what Glock is talking about, my posts have been directed at Utopian and he with me.
To my knowledge i have not sent Glock a private message & if i have it was accidentally and I apologise to him.
As for Utopian, your still at it even now by asking me to prove where you have made any reference to my grammar, making me out to be something i am not.
If you guys are looking for a reason to ban or block me then go ahead.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Utopian, i am not insecure, i am passionate about straights & esp Wades.
You are deliberately picking out paragraphs of my posts and scrutinising me trying to trip me up & make me look like a fool with insults to my intelligence. So yes, you have something against me and your making yourself look daft & silly, not intelligent or mentor like.
Picking up on my grammer and other things I have said only says to me that your butt hurt at what i have said.
If you feel you have to put me in my place because of this, only makes you look like a bully, nothing more because deep down you know i am right

Please note what you wrote that I made bold.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

I have no clue as to what Glock is talking about, my posts have been directed at Utopian and he with me.
To my knowledge i have not sent Glock a private message & if i have it was accidentally and I apologise to him.
As for Utopian, your still at it even now by asking me to prove where you have made any reference to my grammar, making me out to be something i am not.
If you guys are looking for a reason to ban or block me then go ahead.

You accused me of picking on your grammar, and then when I asked you to give even a single instance when I did that, you said "your still at it even now by asking me to prove where you have made any reference to my grammar, making me out to be something i am not."

There is no sense in this at all.

Exactly Utopian so please stop making trouble by trying to prove me wrong.