Thread: Wade & Butcher Comeback

Gabriel. I can't find where I said anything, but be assured I am not attempting to blacken anyone. It is not my attempt nor is it my intent and I am not a troll. If I said something that touched you so I apologize if I knew what it was. I am new to this kind of posting and every bit of it is simply confusing to me and I have as of yet been able to figure this gig saw puzzle out. I am 71 with many debilitating physical conditions memory being one. I have attempted to ask for help but no one seems to be interested enough to give me a few tips. Please accept my apology and let this go. I am too old to fight and am totally uninterested in scraps on a site.

Glock, as far as I'm concerned you have not offended me and i'm sorry to hear noone has helped you.
One thing i will say is this and i will stop.
Michael, if you are proud of your work, why use the Wade & Butcher name? Why not use your own name?
If it's different from the way the original Wades were made and location then it simply isn't Wade & Butcher.

Hey Gabriel,

Again you make a fair point, and it's your right to have that stance for sure. I mean it makes sense..


But to answer your question directly: I just don't so strongly believe the brand needs to be abandoned in the past - as you believe it should be, and I respect that rationale as stated in my previous post.

The thing is, if the company/brand were properly defunct - not viable whatsoever (William Greaves & Sons for example), then I would be like you and say 'Hey, just let it be'.

But that the actual entity is still alive, and I'm up for the task of doing it complete justice and have secured the legitimate rights to do so, I feel it deserves to have an opportunity to continue on into the future, especially given that our current time is more respectful and appreciative of the straight razor than we were a good few decades ago.

I'm crossing the t's and dotting the i's to ensure this is done properly. I want it to be real, and so I'm making it happen. What else are great ideas built on? Passion and perseverance is what i'm bringing to this.

Should all really old companies stop and not continue forward? That's sort of ridiculous, I'm sure you can agree?.. companies change hands, materials change, designs evolve, production locations and methods change.. it's Business, but to me it's also Love for the tool and the industry.

Take Holland & Holland for example: are their guns less 'authentic' today because Harris Holland is long deceased? Or because in the 60's they amalgamated with Westley Richards and also moved premises? or that today they are incorporating new machinery and methods to produce their rifles? I'm sure we could all agree that that isn't the case. All that matters is that the Quality is still there, and the driving force that makes them great still permeates the workrooms..

Your logic would dictate that all old companies that 'change' should rather just cease, and start anew with different names and brand marks..

that fortunately is not the reality of heritage brands and long-existing companies.

Cheers,
- Mike

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Glock, as far as I'm concerned you have not offended me and i'm sorry to hear noone has helped you.
One thing i will say is this and i will stop.
Michael, if you are proud of your work, why use the Wade & Butcher name? Why not use your own name?
If it's different from the way the original Wades were made and location then it simply isn't Wade & Butcher.

Good luck Mike, all the best. I look forward to maybe buying one of your razors.
Best regards
Gabe

Originally Posted by Glock27

I have attempted to ask for help but no one seems to be interested enough to give me a few tips.

What did you need help with?

Utopian. Understanding all the little acronyms and how they are used. Even on this thread the reply with a quote, When I get there I don't see how to use it. Reply is about all I understand. Again the BB open/closed and other odd acronyms. At 71 and not a technical person it is just plane confusing. I have received e-mails like from Gabriel saying I was blackening his name and that was just not true. I not however above he has apologized, so hopefully that misunderstanding is over, but the message came through that bothered me.. I will get back with you on something more specific if I may. Thanks.

Glock, i have never mentioned you at all or has my posts been directed to you up until now, so please stop with the accusations.

How many apologies do you want from me. Where are you getting this stuff?

Glock, ignore the "on/off" stuff on the bottom--I do! We can sort out the other basic forum stuff over the next few days and maybe then move on to razors!

I have razors to restore, goodbye