Thread: Wade and Butcher Irontusk

I understand what you are saying. I am just saying that using the Wade & Butcher name on a product that has no relation to a real W&B other than the name does not set right with me.
They will probably be great razors & I wish them well. I just won't spend big bucks on a Wade & Butcher that AIN'T a Wade & Butcher. I don't know about the new materials & & methods making a "Better Product" A "different product"but not necessarily a better one.

David Huffman

Im with you, and understand what you are saying, they are long gone.

I think by bringing back THE old classic Sheffield they have set the bar very high. That is the part I respect, takes brass ones. I have a feeling that Mike knows that going in. He seems to have the vision for the brand, and the quality should be outstanding using modern methods and materials as he has described.

So far , method and materials seem on par with a high quality product coming our way. I do hope to see the classic style, shapes, and patterns used along the way.

Originally Posted by AKmik

Love my old W&Bs but modern methods and materials will produce a superior product.

I've got some really fancy antique razors that have massive forging defects in them, there's a number that have pretty warped tangs, etc. I would say not in all cases do modern methods produce better results, but it's probably a lot better controlled. Modern workers are treated a hell of a lot better too...

Originally Posted by Slawman

I understand what you are saying. I am just saying that using the Wade & Butcher name on a product that has no relation to a real W&B other than the name does not set right with me.
They will probably be great razors & I wish them well. I just won't spend big bucks on a Wade & Butcher that AIN'T a Wade & Butcher. I don't know about the new materials & & methods making a "Better Product" A "different product"but not necessarily a better one.

David Huffman

Well, lets all just take a 'wait and see', shall we?
The other thread got way out of hand. Lost some members and bad feelings were also brought about.

Your old W&B will always be just that. JMO

Originally Posted by AKmik

Mehhhh everybody's a metallurgist hahaa

Mike, If you were forging old Sheffield steel found in a bunker someone would cry the hammer was not 200 yrs old, or the old bird swinging it wasn't an Englishman lol




Love my old W&Bs but modern methods and materials will produce a superior product. Luckily there are plenty of old ones kicking around if the new W&B isn't someones cup of tea.


I look forward to my Irontusk, will grab one asap.

Gotta agree with you on all of your points. Gotta love the passion of the traditionalists [said with no ill intent] too. Wet shaving is innately traditional, and I think that is why we love it so much, and why many are quick to criticize.

I also love my collection. I am however, open to new concepts, new manufacturing techniques etc... I can see why people are looking at the use of the W&B name as a cash grab. IMO, you can say the same thing about some of the antiques out there. I've seen some pretty crappy blades with a fattened price tag simply because its an antique W&B.

Well, the release date is 2017 and all I can say he's leaving it go right to the wire, or maybe it's already died a death through lack of interest.

Originally Posted by AKmik

Mehhhh everybody's a metallurgist hahaa
.....

I was going to pontificate on the steel choice but the bottom
line is the shave test on day one and all the way to day 30.

I am optimistic.. modern hones allow steel and hardness choices that
the old folk never had.

Should anyone want me to shave test one for ten years please give me a call.

I didn't know WB was held in such high regard, when I lived in Sheffield, the famous names were Wostenholm and Rodgers but those names are already owned by other company.

My friend and business partner wants to get into the razor making business, we make knives at present and I live about 30 miles from Sheffield where my parents still live. Maybe I should move back and start razors being made in Sheffield again.

I do wonder if you can recycle the old Sheffield steel to make new razors.

You should enjoy this, Shing!

http://straightrazorpalace.com/forge...razor-1-a.html

Originally Posted by sharptonn

You should enjoy this, Shing!

http://straightrazorpalace.com/forge...razor-1-a.html

Thanks that was great, lovely pattern on that blade.

I remember as a kid, finding big knives with "warranted cast steel" stamped on the blades which would have been the same steel Victorian and Edwardian razors would be made of. Also files as well. Would be great if I can get enough of this old steel together to melt and make new ingots and make all sorts of new edged tools like historic bowies and of course razors.

At the moment, I am trying to find some high carbon steel actually made in Sheffield, the company I thought made steel in Sheffield gets their from all over the world so I have to be selective. Keep you posted.