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Thread: Help dating and identifying symbol on old Joseph Elliot
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02-17-2017, 04:46 PM #1
Help dating and identifying symbol on old Joseph Elliot
Finally it was not all cloudy and rainy so I could take some outside pictures. I bought this razor about a month ago. It's a not like the other Joseph Elliots I have in my collection. There is a symbol on the tang that looks like a hammer. Also i'm not 100% sure that it reads Elliot because the E looks a little like a R. But it does have the ɔc's and the Maltese cross. It's a stubtail with carved scales unfortunately one side is cracked and missing a piece. But its still a beauty. Why is it stamped with a hammer and not just the normal trademark?
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02-17-2017, 04:58 PM #2
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Thanked: 115Hi I cant help you with your ?,s Just wanted too add my 2 cents, That is an Amazing Looking Razor, Ty
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02-17-2017, 05:16 PM #3"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." -H. L. Mencken
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02-17-2017, 05:43 PM #4
I've read that already and it didn't help much
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02-17-2017, 06:21 PM #5
Purely looking at the blade and scales and the tang markings, the razor dates from 1821 to 1854.
JOSEPH ELLIOT
Sheffield
Trademark: C reversed and C, with + between
1821-1854 ("More Old Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, May 1927 p.372-374)
Elliot Joseph, razor manufacturer, 4 Holliscroft; house: Western bank
JOSEPH ELLIOTT (ELIOT) & SONS
“The True Apollo Ring” Razor
ca. 1795 to present.Last edited by celticcrusader; 02-17-2017 at 06:24 PM.
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02-17-2017, 08:54 PM #6
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Thanked: 4249Interesting razor for sure, seems like everybody is clear that this is a Joseph Elliot razor, but all the Joseph Elliot razor ive seen and even very early ones were marked with Joseph and not J. Elliot. There was definitely others Elliot during that time period that made razors. Not to mention that hammer mark as well.
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02-18-2017, 03:21 AM #7
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Thanked: 4826The hammer reminds me of Johnsons mark. Most commonly seen with seven stars. However that still does not explain that razor at all. It is most curious indeed.
P.S.
The picture of the Joseph Elliots factory has the building marked J.ElliotIt's not what you know, it's who you take fishing!
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02-27-2017, 09:25 PM #8
A very lovely, early Joseph Elliot!
For an explanation and date rang on the hammer mark, see this thread:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...ml#post1715306-Zak Jarvis. Writer. Artist. Bon vivant.