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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    Your 3 Filis have the "nail head" pins like modern production razors such as Dovo, TI and Revisor?

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    Bob, here is a photo. Are they not the same?
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    Yup ... late production filis used nail type pins...
    And as far as I remember the tang markings wewr stamped on to remember the blade's designated heat treatment and temper...while this may or may not be true...what is certain is the letters match the models accordingly and are more frequently found on exported blades of late production...although this is not a rule....some Sello Oro models have no tail stamps...
    The bumber was followed by a letter:
    S - for Sub Cero
    P - Novodur
    G - Double Temple
    B - Medallon Taurino
    N - Inox
    T - EPBD

    If my guess is right your fily should be a wedge grind....from a Medallon Taurino blank...let me know if I nailed it

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    It's a 5/8 full hollow ground. Can't answer to the rest.
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    [QUOTE=doc47;1757571]Bob, here is a photo. Are they not the same?[QUOTE]

    Here are the pins used today by most current makers.

    Spare parts : E-0001

    They have a head like a nail formed to look like a peened pin. The nail head is usually seen on the show side of the razor and the other end is peened traditionally.

    Have a closer look at the OP's pivot pin. I think the wedge pin is done traditionally.

    Here is a photo of my modern TI and "nail head" type pinning on the show side of the razor.

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    It could very well be a very late production Fili but I think it has been repinned at sometime in the past for some unknown reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post

    Here is a photo of my modern TI and "nail head" type pinning on the show side of the razor

    It could very well be a very late production Fili but I think it has been repinned at sometime in the past for some unknown reason.
    Thanks Bob!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovidiucotiga View Post
    Yup ... late production filis used nail type pins...
    Thanks for the info. You get to learn something new everyday. Still a little puzzled why the wedge pin appears to be traditionally peened and not the pivot. I guess it is possible the whoever did the pinning put the nail head on the off side for the wedge for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc47 View Post
    Thanks Bob!
    You are welcome. It is a small thing and easily overlooked in a photo.

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    Here is a pic of the wedge pin if it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlander View Post
    Here is a pic of the wedge pin if it helps.
    Thanks for posting that. Sure looks like the nail head type pin to me. I really could not tell from your first set of photos. Learned a lot about late production Fillis thanks to your post.

    Looks like you have yourself a late production Filli made for the American market judging by the etching. Nice find enjoy.

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    Not the least to consider is the standing challenge made on this site some years ago which simply says "show me a counterfeit razor". No one has ever answered this challenge successfully. People suspect but it never pans out.

    So the likelihood of it being a knockoff is very slim indeed.
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