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    I picked this up at an antique shop in central Texas last week. Wondering if it is real or Fili scales on another blade. Tang only says "made in Spain" & "13-b" on the monkey tail. 5/8 blade, gold wash is an eagle with an "E PLURIBUS UNUM" banner held in the beak & 8 stars. I've never seen this before. Any thoughts?

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    I think this is a fake. Scales and steel, there are not teue filarmonica.

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    I was 90% sure it wasn't a real Fili, but I haven't seen everything....yet.

    Still it got my curiosity up. Will see what it shaves like after I hone it up.
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    Those tang stamps look pritty identical to what they.used to stamp exports...scales seem legit too...I wouldnt be surprised if it shaved like a Fili too...could have been a special order...I have seem many strange things regarding Filarmonica and everytime I think I have seen them all something like this pops up)
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    The scales I think are genuine. It was the blade that I was courious about. I have never seen anything on a Filarmonica I know is gen like this and the single, English, tang stamp didn't feel correct either.
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    I think it could be genuine a very late export model, the quality is hit and miss on these last models.
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    The pivot pin appears to be the very modern style "nail head" type. My guess is that it was unpinned at some recent point in time. Can't see what the wedge pin is though. Very well may be a late production model but I really do not know much about Fillis.

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    It is a Filarmonica and probably a very late model, near when they went out of business. The company near its end started using Made in Spain in English so that stamp is not a problem, were there any marking on the other side? 13-B is a fairly common marking on later Filis. I have never seen this blade etching before but that means nothing. The company was grasping at straws near the end and it is suggested they weren't even making their own razors near the end. This could be a special order, a limited run or even an advertising model. The pinning on yours is identical to my 3 so you are good there as well in terms of this being a File. Now, if this model is from a later production model there can be issues, not so much with the blade as with the over-all quality control. You should be able to get many wonderful shaves from that unique razor. Nice find!
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc47 View Post
    It is a Filarmonica and probably a very late model, near when they went out of business. The company near its end started using Made in Spain in English so that stamp is not a problem, were there any marking on the other side? 13-B is a fairly common marking on later Filis. I have never seen this blade etching before but that means nothing. The company was grasping at straws near the end and it is suggested they weren't even making their own razors near the end. This could be a special order, a limited run or even an advertising model. The pinning on yours is identical to my 3 so you are good there as well in terms of this being a File. Now, if this model is from a later production model there can be issues, not so much with the blade as with the over-all quality control. You should be able to get many wonderful shaves from that unique razor. Nice find!
    The pinning is identical to my only other Filarmonica, which I know is a later model.

    There are no other marks on the tang. My #13 has "Made in Spain" in English & Spanish on the pile side of the tang, "Filarmonica" and the lyre on the front side. That is what made me leery of it. Hope the geometry and steel are good. Looking forward to using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc47 View Post
    The pinning on yours is identical to my 3 so you are good there as well in terms of this being a File.
    Your 3 Filis have the "nail head" pins like modern production razors such as Dovo, TI and Revisor?

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