i think me and jone are pretty solid... i extended a humble, and sincere apology... and im pretty sure he willingly and whole heartedly accepted it... i was a bit of an ass, and i let a little bit of RAD freak me out... lol although, IZLAT is showing me some nice razors, i might end up picking one of those up a few look like the W&Bs ive been looking at... including C utz's meat cleaver.... which, while i LOVE that razor, i could definitely see feasibility in finding one of lesser..... "value"... lol dont really have the cash to spend on a $140 razor... but i will if its what i want... just, at the moment... i may have a few other nice razors on the plate