Thread: ID: Six-Point Star Symbol

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Originally Posted by Karakoup1

The "Gellé Frères" in Paris was a barbers' supplies shop... They didn't produce themselves razors but most likely were branding razors with their name.

Moreover, that's why I wrote that it could have been made/sold around 1940...

I am wondering...where di you find the information stating it was a barber's supply shop?

The information I find says Gele Freres was a perfume company. In fact, many websites share the same information including awards won for the following perfumes:

Gelle Freres of Paris France, established in 1826 by the brothers Augustin & Jean-Baptiste Gelle after purchase of formulas and shop which previously belonged to Fargeon Jeune, descendant of perfumer to Louis XV. Augustin's father in law, Emile Lecaron succeeded him. The company became a major exporter and produced luxurious presentations. They were awarded many prizes and the gold medal in 1925. :

• 1889 Le Mikado
• 1890 Memphis
• c1900 Solange
• c1900 Savon Paradisia (soap)
• 1908 Seduction
• 1910 Noblesse Oblige
• 1910 Quelques Success
• 1911 Pour Etre Aimee
• 1912 Nacreor
• 1913 Regina
• 1923 Caprice de Fleurs
• 1925 Mon Caprice
• 1925 Nythis
• 1927 Etoile Noire
• 1930 Narta

I'm guessing they were primarily a perfume company that specialized in a few other specialty grooming items.

Me

First...could a moderator move this to a different subforum while I try to figure this out? And maybe change the thread title to something like: Mysterious Star Symbol? =)

I was looking closely at the symbol, and I noticed two things:

1. The C figure in the center of the star might have a little squiggle on the bottom. I can't say for sure. I need a second opinion. The squiggle is the accent mark called [the] la cédille. I'll attach a photo example.

2. The "masonic" six-point stars always show the lines inside to illustrate it is made of two distinct triangles. This star does not show those lines. Therefore, I no longer believe it is the masonic symbol.

I now believe it is more likely eitherthe Hebrew symbol for the Star of David or it is simply a cool pattern that someone chose for some kind of logo. (I still have no idea what the logo means.)

(Argh! This is giving me a mindache!)

Any more theories???

Me

FWIW - It looks Hebrew to me. Just an opinion. Nazi Germany (Hitler) brought about the Star of David as THE symbol for Judaism. The Menorah is the only true symbol. When Israel adopted it for their flag, that kind of sealed the deal with people that it was a Jewish symbol. The Star of David dates back to Egyptian times and has been used in Kaballah, Islam, Christianity, by the Occult, the Freemasons, and everywhere in between.

Why is it temporarily unavailable? I think it's beautiful. Find someone who speaks Hebrew and rule that one our first... just a humble opinion.

Originally Posted by Viola

FWIW - It looks Hebrew to me. Just an opinion. Nazi Germany (Hitler) brought about the Star of David as THE symbol for Judaism. The Menorah is the only true symbol. When Israel adopted it for their flag, that kind of sealed the deal with people that it was a Jewish symbol. The Star of David dates back to Egyptian times and has been used in Kaballah, Islam, Christianity, by the Occult, the Freemasons, and everywhere in between.

Great information! I do know someone who is Jewish. Maybe I'll ask him the next time I see him. Or email him the photo.

Why is it temporarily unavailable? I think it's beautiful.

Honestly...I'm afraid to sell it. As a Buddhist, I must avoid any intentional [or accidental, if it can be helped] misleading information. (It's akin to Thou shalt not lie!) But beyond that, I'd feel simply awful if someone bought it thinking one thing, and time proved the other. Of course, I always offer a 100% refund on anything I sell, but it's better to never require a refund in the first place. Don't you agree? Anyway...the short answer is...it's because I'm afraid. LOL =)

Me

Originally Posted by CJBianco

Great information! I do know someone who is Jewish. Maybe I'll ask him the next time I see him. Or email him the photo.



Honestly...I'm afraid to sell it. As a Buddhist, I must avoid any intentional [or accidental, if it can be helped] misleading information. (It's akin to Thou shalt not lie!) But beyond that, I'd feel simply awful if someone bought it thinking one thing, and time proved the other. Of course, I always offer a 100% refund on anything I sell, but it's better to never require a refund in the first place. Don't you agree? Anyway...the short answer is...it's because I'm afraid. LOL =)

Me

I understand. I practice the tenants of Buddhism myself and honesty is certainly hard to come by now days. I applaud you. And I applaud your location as I am originally from Greer, SC.

Originally Posted by CJBianco

...Honestly...I'm afraid to sell it. As a Buddhist, I must avoid any intentional [or accidental, if it can be helped] misleading information. (It's akin to Thou shalt not lie!) But beyond that, I'd feel simply awful if someone bought it thinking one thing, and time proved the other. Of course, I always offer a 100% refund on anything I sell, but it's better to never require a refund in the first place. Don't you agree? Anyway...the short answer is...it's because I'm afraid. LOL =)

Me

Why can't you just sell it as a "French Faux Frameback" and leave it as that? I'm sure that there are members that would like to have this razor because it is a great looking razor.

Originally Posted by The Blacksmith

Why can't you just sell it as a "French Faux Frameback" and leave it as that? I'm sure that there are members that would like to have this razor because it is a great looking razor.

But that solution would be too easy. And I like to complicate things.

Me

Originally Posted by Viola

FWIW - It looks Hebrew to me. Just an opinion. Nazi Germany (Hitler) brought about the Star of David as THE symbol for Judaism. The Menorah is the only true symbol. When Israel adopted it for their flag, that kind of sealed the deal with people that it was a Jewish symbol. The Star of David dates back to Egyptian times and has been used in Kaballah, Islam, Christianity, by the Occult, the Freemasons, and everywhere in between.

Why is it temporarily unavailable? I think it's beautiful. Find someone who speaks Hebrew and rule that one our first... just a humble opinion.

I speak/ read Hebrew and that is not Hebrew lettering inside the star, nice Razor though

Here's a wild suggestion:
Perhaps it's just a star, selected because it looks nice.
I suspect we are looking for meaning where none resides. One can imagine people in the future discussing the religious meaning of the early twenty-first century smiley.

Duncan.