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    Although, I totally disagree with everything the Nazi party represented. It is history. I have various pieces from the Reich. It's gone and never coming back. I have stuff from the USSR as well with Stalin. I have a friend that was in Iraq. He brought me some stuff from Sadams regime.

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    I spent a little detective work.
    Some interesting moments:
    The razor in this thread is stamped Carl Nelchior.


    The same razor in that thread is stamped Carl Melchior.
    I've found Carl Melchior razor on eBay.
    Very strange.
    And the last, Melchior is Jewish surname.
    Alex Ts.

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    The name stamped is Melchior.( Bad pic). Actually, the very same razor. The ebay one seems to have the same stamp. Interesting.
    Last edited by sharptonn; 05-25-2011 at 06:56 PM.
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    Definitely interesting as far as the razor goes. Re: the handwriting - my Dad writes similar to that, and says he has ever since he took drafting at Georgia Tech in the 60's.

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    Guys - thats clearly as 'N' on NELCHIOR. Zoom in.

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    Don't worry, OP. Go "wiki" Jews, shaving and koshraut law. Very interesting stuff. Going balls to the wall with Hitler and/or swastika razors is just kicking it up a holocaustlicious* notch! Bam! Whoopee! Some of us get a real kick from it!

    I can't tell you how satisfying it is to mow down every single one of them across the entire field. I mean, facial hairs on my Jewish face, that is. Hey Rabbi Swinuel, look at me! Whoopee!

    *holocaustlicious is trademarked AxelTech Industries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AxelH View Post
    Don't worry, OP. Go "wiki" Jews, shaving and koshraut law. Very interesting stuff. Going balls to the wall with Hitler and/or swastika razors is just kicking it up a holocaustlicious* notch! Bam! Whoopee! Some of us get a real kick from it!

    I can't tell you how satisfying it is to mow down every single one of them across the entire field. I mean, facial hairs on my Jewish face, that is. Hey Rabbi Swinuel, look at me! Whoopee!

    *holocaustlicious is trademarked AxelTech Industries.
    Atta boy, AxelH! I might just send it to you to do just that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio View Post
    Guys - thats clearly as 'N' on NELCHIOR. Zoom in.
    Ohh naysayers of the razor world! I said it was a bad pic! Heres a better one! Geeeez!

    You know, guys, I have found myself with a pile of emotions in this thread and I apologize if I have offended any one. I have found myself in a strange position as to trying to "authenticate" this razor as being a propaganda piece from Hitler's day by giving honest info and opinions.These thing exist and people cannot believe it when the see something authentic with a swatstika on it. By the same token, I do not want to think someone in Texas would see a need to reproduce these things, but realize it is probably true! This could surely be because some of us do not want to believe in Man's inhumanity to Man. I surely do not, but we all know what these symbols mean, and thankfully,we all abhor them and know we shall not allow such things to flourish in our world as we can.When I show it to someone they suck in a huge gulp of air, every time. Older guys like me grew up with it and are a little bit sensitive about it!! I am proud of the gentlemen on this forum and know that a straight shaving man is a good man. In contrast, we all own straight razors. Some were owned by men who made Hitler look like a schoolboy, thats a fact. It's all steel and cheap plastic, for certain and as I said before, and meaning it now," Moving on"............................................... .......

    (P.S.) I am sorry for having hijacked this thread, but I did have help!
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    The swastika had many very good meanings (primarily well-being) prior to Hitler. And, as has been posted, censoring it for the work of one man gives that man (even in death) a great deal of power. I understand why many people hate these symbols, and I don't judge them for it. But educating oneself is key to overcoming their power (IMHO.) Certain religions still use the swastika for its original purpose, and I congratulate them for it.

    That said, I appreciate the time taken to show these images. They're fascinating, frankly. While I cannot contribute to their actual origins, I'd like to check back on this thread to see what is discovered.

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    swastika comes from hinduism/budhism the 4 legs meaning love,, light, good luck ,life. the nazi turn the swastika symbol to SS look alike . SS mean Socialism Swastika. nazi from social party. btw, i like those razor. it looks cool
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    I'm surprised nobody has considered the possibility that the razor has become falsely associated with a 1945 box. I have seen just that sort of printing on 1930s technical drawings, and as a forgery, it wouldn't be a very alluring one. Why not choose a suitably marketable and conveniently defunct admiral by name? It is even possible that a sailor nicknamed his small child "the admiral". I think it very likely that there was a razor (or a pen, or anything else of similar size) in the box, which got lost, damaged or worn out.

    I'm sure Manah is right in saying that items like the razor were faked in Texas, and this is extremely likely to be one of them. I'm sure modern technology has made a style of inscription common which used to be uncommon. It ought to be possible to find out at what date it started to be used, if ever it did, on mass-market Melchior razors.

    But impossible in the 1940s, I do not believe. I can remember seeing similar paint-filled inscriptions on promotional pens etc. in the 1950s, and I'm sure it was done, as it was done long before on horn, with a hot die. A pantograph engraving machine, such as is used in the US-style military ID badges I've seen in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, would do it too. I would acid-etch a die, press it hot till it bottomed on the etched ground, and then polish the celluloid flat until the roughened surface was gone, leaving only the unlamented reichsfuhrer and the writing.

    People say Germans don't have a sense of humour, but I have known good many, including my wife, who could give you an argument, and never more so than at the notion of badges of rank on one's razor. All else apart, as well we know, straight razors outlast any rank the owner might have. I know there were plenty of Nazi sympathisers long after the war, and perhaps even a little after too, so long as they could do it in the privacy of their own bathroom, without the inconvenience of being shot at. I'm reminded of Garbo, Britain's male Catalan double agent, who ran a network of totally fictitious German agents in the UK. The Germans even awarded a pension to the widow of one who had to "die" in hospital, after he missed reporting a convoy departure he would surely have seen, and someone may be receiving it yet. But when Garbo later met his German handler, he was given the Iron Cross which had been awaiting him in a desk drawer until 1949. A German origin for the inscription is far from improbable.

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