Thread: Newer dovo with significant hone wear

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

^Look at the posts referenced there. Those are posts within 4 month of people joining, and two start with "I'm just learning how to hone." How credible are those posts? How much experience do those users have?

...it's usually from inexperienced users or those with agendas - that is, if the source is even an owner.

To be fair, that doesn't at all describe the warp honing thread the OP linked. The first six posts are exclusively Mentors and a Senior Moderator. Considering comments like Glen's first line in #6 of that thread, I tend to share Neil's views about this one.

Originally Posted by northpaw

To be fair, that doesn't at all describe the warp honing thread the OP linked. The first six posts are exclusively Mentors and a Senior Moderator. Considering comments like Glen's first line in #6 of that thread, I tend to share Neil's views about this one.

Fair enough about what Glen and Bart said; I only read the post the OP referenced, which was by a new guy. As for the other early posts, it looks to me like Gary was, at the time, pretty new to honing. JMS doesn't seem to reference Dovos in his post. Yes, Mentors and a Senior Mod, but I've been a mentor and am now a mod, but my posts from back when I was learning are probably quite inaccurate. Some were pointed out to me, hence my sig.

Also, those posts are from about a year ago. I think it is quite possible that Dovo has improved their quality since then. I'm not saying that they have, I'm saying I don't know. Are there more recent posts with more recent evidence? I'm asking based on my limited experience at Lynn's, where I picked out 24 Dovo's at random from Lynn's "Wall O'Dovo" and all 24 laid totally flat on the hones and I didn't need to go under a Naniwa 5k in getting them all shave ready. For the timeframe, that was... within the last 2 months.

Also, the badge under my name doesn't say anything about my knowledge of, say TI's. I've never seen a new TI in person, so I'm not qualified to say anything about them. And TI's are just one example; there are lots of things I don't know. I only hope that I now know I don't know at least most of what I don't know so I can stop putting my foot in my mouth (though I'm sure I still do at times).

I bought this off ebay ages ago, and it was a great shaver, but the wear on the spine was curious



I believe that it was just badly honed, and IIRC the width of it supported this.

Originally Posted by northpaw

To be fair, that doesn't at all describe the warp honing thread the OP linked. The first six posts are exclusively Mentors and a Senior Moderator. Considering comments like Glen's first line in #6 of that thread, I tend to share Neil's views about this one.

First off guys you are taking that out of the context in which it was made...

Gary was talking about this Dovo in another thread which was why I knew what razor he was talking about...
I am good that way because I read so many of the threads....

There are problem razors out there, I don't really care what brand you mention, however most of those problems were caused by the first person that honed it...

Unfortunately no one every wants to admit that part of it, it is always the razor, it is never the loose nut behind the hone, or the strop, or even the shave...
But again without seeing this razor we are grinding axes over nothing...

Question:

If I were to say wonderful, warm, glowing things about DOVO, or Hart, or TI, would I be given glowing, near obsequious, approbation?

Some negatives get jumped on pretty hard; I'm just wondering if positives get the reverse.

Only one way to find out.

Originally Posted by Bruce

Question:

If I were to say wonderful, warm, glowing things about DOVO, or Hart, or TI, would I be given glowing, near obsequious, approbation?

Some negatives get jumped on pretty hard; I'm just wondering if positives get the reverse.

Slarti...,

Stay tuned. I could have a lapse at any moment.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

First off guys you are taking that out of the context in which it was made...

Didn't mean to take it in any context other than what a new guy might see. My point was that if I were a new member, without knowing all the backstory of Dovo's past and present consistency, how many razors Dovo makes, who was made a mentor here when, etc.

...if I didn't know any of that, but simply did a search for grind problems and Dovo, or uneven and Dovo, or somesuch, and then saw threads/posts like those, I might also ask the kinds of things the OP did (which upon reading his posts again, seem fairly polite and innocuous). Whether or not a new guy uses the right terminology, or somehow inadvertently steps on a popular manufacturer's toes, it would be nice if folks kept the responses friendly and helpful.

Again I am going to point out that you guys are lining up on sides of the field, and now I am actually begining to wonder why?????

I refuse to even acknowledge "hone wear" in general until I at least see a picture.. Second even with a picture it won't tell the whole story, third again, there are bad razors, I don't care the name of the brand...

Oh except Dubl Ducks there is no such thing as a bad one of those don't believe me just ask me....

PS; that was a joke don't take it out of context ok...

Originally Posted by northpaw

Didn't mean to take it in any context other than what a new guy might see. My point was that if I were a new member, without knowing all the backstory of Dovo's past and present consistency, how many razors Dovo makes, who was made a mentor here when, etc.

...if I didn't know any of that, but simply did a search for grind problems and Dovo, or uneven and Dovo, or somesuch, and then saw threads/posts like those, I might also ask the kinds of things the OP did (which upon reading his posts again, seem fairly polite and innocuous). Whether or not a new guy uses the right terminology, or somehow inadvertently steps on a popular manufacturer's toes, it would be nice if folks kept the responses friendly and helpful.

Hear, hear! As for context, I simply read the threads (I'm good at that too) and drew my own conclusions about their content without stating them, so I can't be mistaken for taking things out of context now, can I?

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Again I am going to point out that you guys are lining up on sides of the field, and now I am actually begining to wonder why?????

Who are "...you guys..."? - I'm not one of them, I hope. The only field I'm lining up on is not jumping on someone because he asked an innocent question - or is it unfashionable these days to make allowances for people?

Regards,
Neil