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10-05-2010, 07:48 PM #1
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Thanked: 70Leather scales?
Won this John Barber last night.
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Leather scales? Has anyone seen leather scales before? Think they are original to the razor?
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10-05-2010, 07:51 PM #2
They are rare, but I have seen them first hand, it looks as if you may need to have those replaced.
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10-05-2010, 07:59 PM #3
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Thanked: 70Yeah, I may see if I can make a set of one piece scales out of oak or something. Ones that could have come on it to begin with, that way I can put the leather up for posterity.
This is the first I'd heard of leather scales and I wanted a John Barber so I pulled the trigger.
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10-05-2010, 08:03 PM #4
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Thanked: 1371I have a razor with leather scales. It looks like those may have gotten wet, or something. The one I have looks more like the flat rubber scales that you see on some old razors.
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10-05-2010, 08:41 PM #5
Nice old timer, congratulations! I have never seen leather scales before. Looks like they went through the same process leather luggage used to, for stiffening and toughening of steamer trunks, etc.
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10-05-2010, 09:01 PM #6
I've never seen leather scales before but, having seen a Brooks leather bycicle saddle and just how stiff it is... I think that may be possible.
Good catch!
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10-05-2010, 09:12 PM #7
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Thanked: 70Thanks, all.
I may try making some replacement leather scales. I'll take the razor up to Tandy and see what they say.
HNSB- Have any pictures of yours?
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10-05-2010, 09:15 PM #8
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Thanked: 3164I reckon the originals were pressed leather - it is quite dense and hard. I believe they boiled it (like they used to do for hard boot sole leather) then pressed it in heated and greased metal dies, often with a decorative line around the edge. They used to do this for the leather in suits of armour in mediaeval times - cuir boulli was the name. The amount of heat meant you could have a hardened or a very rigid leather - with high heats the actual tannins in the leather begin to flow and when set the scales look a bit like hard rubber.
Someone at one time or another tried to emulate those originals with just cut, fairly rigid leather - it looks a bit home grown and battered to me.
There were a copious amount of razors with scales using the cuir bouilli technique - I must have 20 or so sets that I have removed from old razors.
Lovely looking blade, by the way - should look the business in new scales!
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Neil
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10-05-2010, 09:24 PM #9
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10-05-2010, 09:35 PM #10
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Thanked: 14Pretty sweet buy.