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    May be, I would agree with you. But these pins! They were not cheap at that time and now.
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    I think Wada is a common Japanese surname..

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    Quote Originally Posted by str8fencer View Post
    Peculiar razor this, with the weird name, anyone got any insight? Can't find any mention of the makers anywhere, and 2 typos in 2 words seem unlikely. Still, there you have it. Someone had too much gin a century ago or what?

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    Hmmmm, The stamp looks pretty fresh...? Maybe it's my imagination because it's so close to wade and butcher...I use metal stamps in work from time to time, The only think is, The letter T looks a bit wierd...It could have been a joke, The other emblem is a face in the middle, smiling. or so it looks...

    It could be legit, Lot's of razors with strange names out there, That's for sure...maybe someone will chime in, and say, yeah, I have one of those...

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    From here.

    WADE m English
    From a surname which was derived either from the Old English place name wade meaning "a ford", or else from the Old English given name Wada, a derivative of the word wadan "to go".

    This is turning into a very interesting thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanII View Post
    From here.

    WADE m English
    From a surname which was derived either from the Old English place name wade meaning "a ford", or else from the Old English given name Wada, a derivative of the word wadan "to go".

    This is turning into a very interesting thread.
    Good find..

    Here's more (from wikipedia):

    Wadan

    Old English

    Etymology
    From Germanic *wadan, from Indo-European *wadh-, *wedh-. Cognate with Old Frisian wada, Middle Dutch wāden (Dutch waden), Old High German watan (German waten), Old Norse vaða (Icelandic vaða, Swedish vada). The Indo-European root is also the source of Latin vādō (“I go”), vadum (“a ford”).

    Pronunciation
    IPA: /ˈwɑdɑn/

    Verb
    Wadan (strong class VI) (third-person singular present wadaþ, third-person singular preterite wōd, preterite plural wōdon, past participle (ġe)waden)
    to go, to advance, to travel
    Wod þa wiges heard, wæpen up ahof: a battle-hard man advanced, raised up his weapon. (Battle of Maldon)

    Descendants
    English : Wade
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    This from : Surnames of the United Kingdom - A Concise Etymological Dictionary By Henry Harrison :

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    Well Wada Ya Know about that ! Great work guys !!
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    Ok. Really, great work, guys!
    But why do you think only about Wade & Butcher?
    Robert Wade was only a partner of William Butcher.
    What about George & James Butler? They were in business since 1848.

    P.S. As for me, this razor does not look like Wade & Butcher.
    Alex Ts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manah View Post
    P.S. As for me, this razor does not look like Wade & Butcher.
    I agree. OTOH, it does look like a genuine razor from the period. The "V" Regent stamp is also an indication that it is bona fide. An interesting find. I wonder how it will shave once honed up ?
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    I totally agree that it seems appropriate from the period, and that it would have been a nice razor at the time, with the nice scales and the pretty pins. I do not believe it was ever intended to be deceitful either, posing as a wade & butcher. At the time, I'm sure wade & butcher did not hold the position it does today, it was merely one of a very long list of quality manufacturers.

    I'm afraid it is not in my hands, per ce, at the moment. I just bought it over the net and it should be in the mail at the moment. I'll make sure to let you know once it's here and cleaned up a bit.
    I only hope I can get rid of the rust without de-peening it

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    Quote Originally Posted by manah View Post
    Ok. Really, great work, guys!
    But why do you think only about Wade & Butcher?
    Robert Wade was only a partner of William Butcher.
    What about George & James Butler? They were in business since 1848.

    P.S. As for me, this razor does not look like Wade & Butcher.
    Totally agree.

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