Thread: Can anybody comment on this razors grind ?

Hello,

I came across this razor and I am wondering what difference this kind of a grind makes to the way a razor shaves VS one that has one or two stabilizers ?

Is this consdered to be a shoulderless grind or is it some other variation ?



The picture has been severely cropped because I don't want to break any rules

I would call that a shoulderless grind. I myself cannot feel the difference between a razor with stabilizers vs a shoulderless razor, though in theory I would expect a shoulderless to have a bit more flex. That would, of course, be dependent on the hollow grinding (and size, steel, HT, etc etc) as well as the shoulder.

I concur with Ivan, shoulderless.

As to how it shaves, that is an unknown. The shoulderness configuration is only the beginning. Is it full hollow, half hollow, quarter hollow? Is the blade 4/8ths, 5/8ths, 6/8ths, 7/8ths?

I personally tend to favor larger heavy full hollow razors, so the blade grind is more important to me than the shouldeless aspect.

I've found no real difference in shoulderless vs. stabilized configurations in the blades I prefer.

That is a nice looking blade. Too small for me though.

Originally Posted by Hawkeye5

I concur with Ivan, shoulderless.

No biggie, but I'm Dylan. Gugi is Ivan (though I am sure there are other Ivans as well).

About the only disadvantage I have found with shoulderless razors is that I have found warped blades more frequent than with razors with stabilizers. I still love the the asthetic quality, but that has been my experience.
More than likely yours will be fine and it is more of an issue with 6\8 blades FME.

I have a 5/8 Henckels 113 that is shaped almost exactly the same. Mine has a slight curve to the spine/edge. The blade is a half hollow so it still has some rigidity to it. To be honest, I'm a Sheffield guy. But that Henckels is in my top 5 for best shave. Aside from function, it's a beautiful blade full of classic character.

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

No biggie, but I'm Dylan. Gugi is Ivan (though I am sure there are other Ivans as well).

OOPs!

My bad. Sorry Dylan.

I'm not sure that I knew your name before, but I won't forget in the future!

Originally Posted by Hawkeye5

Is it full hollow, half hollow, quarter hollow? Is the blade 4/8ths, 5/8ths, 6/8ths, 7/8ths?

Originally Posted by Arbroath

I have a 5/8 Henckels 113 that is shaped almost exactly the same.

It is in fact a Henckels Friodur and the blade is 5/8" wide.
They don't say anything about the hollowness of the grind, no model number either, but the tang does have the ubiquitous 1/2 stamped into the end.
Not sure if that means anything....

Originally Posted by Shuriken

It is in fact a Henckels Friodur and the blade is 5/8" wide.
They don't say anything about the hollowness of the grind, no model number either, but the tang does have the ubiquitous 1/2 stamped into the end.
Not sure if that means anything....

Interesting, mine actually isn't a Friodur. It's a Twinworks that was sold by Graef & Schmidt, NY in the 40's. Yours is most likely the stainless version of mine. Separated at birth perhaps! I'm willing to bet that the 1/2 stamp applies to the hollow of the blade. I've shaved with plenty of straights, and I have never used a razor this small that is actually as enjoyable as this.

Originally Posted by Hawkeye5

My bad. Sorry Dylan.

John, I can definitely fix that:

"The grind is 'shoulderless', it's hard to tell from that photo how thick the blade is but that determines the flexibility. If the blade is very hollow ground the lack of shoulder definitely changes how it handles."

See, a tiny causality violation later and you could've replied (or I think it would be called pre-plied) to my own comment