Thread: Real or fake

I think we should discuss definition of fake?
Are there Any fake ones out there?
My answer will be yes?
Depends what someone accepts by fake.
Lets say This Particular blade. Henckles - original made henckles razor and every single of them had etching on the shank.
Last couple years they start to make Henckles razors again and not put etching on the shank or their logo. Instead of 2 or 4 men New ones start to have only 1 man grabbing hands together.
Now is new ones made buy same people as original company? are their quality same as old one?
I doubt it.
Simple way and easy to see all this check out Henckles chinese made knifes.
there is some more examples out there which at the moment dovo makes them.
In The other hand i haven't seen any New blades from UK,USA, OR FRANCE .(Ti has been forever we are talking about the company which discontinued producing product)
Interesting most new ones comes out from Germany. Even Puma start to making them.
Makes me wonder?

Washers aren't among things I'd look at as to determining whether a blade was fake or not. It could be fraud at the very most; a Solingen maker trying to cash in on the Henckles brand, but I highly doubt it.

It is certainly a genuine German razor, not an eastern copy. Look at the grind. It't too good to be fake.

Razorfaker guy 1: "Build me a fake razor. Pay meticulous attention to detail. The pins, the box, even the paperwork have to look exactly right."

Razorfaker guy 2: "What about the bearing washers?"

Razorfaker guy 1: "Oh... Don't worry about those. Just make sure you get everything else juuust right."

Originally Posted by HNSB

Razorfaker guy 1: "Build me a fake razor. Pay meticulous attention to detail. The pins, the box, even the paperwork have to look exactly right."

Razorfaker guy 2: "What about the bearing washers?"

Razorfaker guy 1: "Oh... Don't worry about those. Just make sure you get everything else juuust right."

+1. Going to the expense of printing up paperwork, boxes, scales with the inlaid Friodur ...... the etch that is on the blade and doing the hollow grind. I couldn't imagine that it would be a fake. If I was going to do something like that it would be making fake wonderedges, reapers, and fillys. Like Willie Sutton said (google him) when the judge asked him why he robbed banks, "Cause thats where the money is."

Yea, this comes up every now and then. So far no one has encountered a counterfeit. It's not something I would be worrying about. The day it happens will be the day either straight shaving or collecting goes mainstream.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

The day it happens will be the day either straight shaving or collecting goes mainstream.

This is the best point made so far. While I loved reading all of the responses, and think you all made good points, some of the points on counterfeiting were naive, in general, though possibly dead on in regard to straight razors. For example, while poorly done instructions is a dead give away for counterfeiting, copying instructions accurately is easier than copying an integrated circuit, and integrated circuits are counterfeited.

As for going into business under their own Chinese (or other country) brand is the logical thing to do, building a brand reputation costs time and money, and is an uphill battle. I know some Chinese brands that are attempting this in the west, with shoes and pianos as two examples, but it is a slow process.

Don't take this wrong, I am glad the photos are passing the smell test among my seniors here at srp. I don't plan to sell the razor--I plan to have it honed and see how it shaves. If it shaves well, whether or not it is counterfeit will be irrelevant.

i dont think enough people are into straights to make it profitable to take the time to make a fake razor.

Here's Mine! I will take that "Fake" off your hands! Anytime!
Lets not do this again!

Well, I contacted Henckels, and they confirmed that based on the photographs the "razor looks to be a legitmate Henckels item". Once again the wisdom and gut instincts of senior members of SRP pays off!

Originally Posted by Deerhunter1995

i dont think enough people are into straights to make it profitable to take the time to make a fake razor.

I often hear this.
To your attention, the fake razors from the H.Boker & Co. stand in Solingen.