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05-19-2012, 03:01 AM #11Member
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I agree that honing plays a crucial role in getting a razor to its optimal sharpness. That said, the aforementioned Klaas attains a level of sharpness beyond that of my other razors. I think it has to do with blade geometry and the steel: the blade is wafer thin yet stone hard, cutting at an extremely acute angle.
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BTW, what's the grind on those Mappin & Webbs?
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05-19-2012, 03:06 AM #12Member
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I love that so-close-my-whole-face-is-about-to-bleed feeling Originally Posted by Theseus
I have a vintage bismark that shaves so close that I bleed every time I use it.
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05-19-2012, 03:12 AM #13Senior Member
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Yeah, the Bismark is about what I imagine your Klaas to be. It takes an edge that blows away just about all of my other razors. Straight off the stones, if you don't strop it enough, it can cause a bloody mess even if you use proper pressure and angle. Originally Posted by GringoMexicano
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05-19-2012, 03:14 AM #14Member
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Responses have been interesting: excluding the Mappin & Webb and the Wosty, which may be wedge grinds, it would appear that all the other blades mentioned have been full hollows. This sort of gibes with my own experience: wedge grinds, while more comfortable shavers and great for lopping off thick growth, don't seem to cut quite as close on the final passes.
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then its exactly the same style of grind as the Klaas: full hollowing starts fast i.e. close to the (worked) spine...My other full hollows don't start to thin until about mid-blade. This is starting to confirm my suspicion that the "fast hollow" geometry is what makes it cut so close.Well, you know, if your vintage Bismark is like this one: Vintage Straight Razor: C2 BISMARCK MADE IN GERMANY SOLINGEN FINE HOLLOW GROUND - YouTube Originally Posted by Theseus
Yeah, the Bismark is about what I imagine your Klaas to be. It takes an edge that blows away just about all of my other razors. Straight off the stones, if you don't strop it enough, it can cause a bloody mess even if you use proper pressure and angle.
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05-19-2012, 03:34 AM
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Your CE horn also has a very similar geometry to my Klaas: its a "fast hollow" e.g. see my previous post.
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05-19-2012, 03:40 AM
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Actually, my Bismark is a pre-Dovo.No worked spine. It's an extra hollow with a spike point.
05-19-2012, 03:51 AM
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You have to consider some of the wedge grinds out there have been old, rusted, badly honed relics that have been restored.. The grind is the last thing that influences sharpness. Your skill level & how the edge is honed plays a bigger part & as has been said many times, the steel.
I have honed & tested a few wedges that gave me an equally close shave to other razors. I choose not to own one as I find them heavy & clumsy but some of the smaller ones have made me think twice.
You are lucky to have a good razor that is no doubt well honed but your stubble has no idea what grind it is.
05-19-2012, 03:52 AM
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do you have a picture of it (or can you point to something online)
05-19-2012, 03:57 AM
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I'll get a fresh pic up of it tomorrow, though, with time, you could probably find a pic of it in one of my old SOTD posts.
