Thread: ID a Cowboy

Originally Posted by SirStropalot

New link. Go down 4 rows and to razor 1 & 2. 1 is 4/8 and 2 is 3/8. Even in the thumbnails the width difference is obvious. So, the 4/8 would have to 5/8 and so on. I think they're more accurate than that. I'm not going to buy one just to measure it though. Vintage Straight Razors

Howard

Yes all the razors they have marked as 3/8 will measure as 4/8 from spine to edge.
I have/had owned all of these Filarmonicas at some stage and all of them marked as 3/8 will measure as 4/8 spine to edge.
The No.11 for cutting hair (para corte cabello) measures 5/8 from tip to spine and the size of the Henckels marked as 5/8 appears to be the same as the No.11 "4/8"

What I don´t understand is this H Eicker Biedermeier which is stamped as 3/8 but measures 4/8:-
http://img287.imagevenue.com/gallery...armonicaDT.php

For that matter I have a NOS No.14 stamped as 7/8 which measures 8/8

Originally Posted by earcutter

I don't know if this helps but like I said - compared to My Dovo, Revisor and Boker (all sold to me as 4/8's), it, my Fili seems about 1/8 smaller.

I hope you can see it in the Pics.

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Yep I agree with you that the Fili is 1/8 smaller that the others, but if you measure all of them from spine to edge you will find that the others are 5/8 and not 4/8.
Nice razors btw

Originally Posted by bonitomio

Yep I agree with you that the Fili is 1/8 smaller that the others, but if you measure all of them from spine to edge you will find that the others are 5/8 and not 4/8.
Nice razors btw

Thanks bon! And thanks for your help!

I like my 4/8's and under. The majority of my collection is such. I note that everyone seemingly measures differently. Even between those "other three" there are 1/16's worth of a difference.

Maybe I'll need to reconsider my size preference from 4/8 and under to 5/8 and under lol. Woot!! That'll make the pool of possible razors a whole lot larger lol!!!

Originally Posted by bonitomio

Yes all the razors they have marked as 3/8 will measure as 4/8 from spine to edge.
I have/had owned all of these Filarmonicas at some stage and all of them marked as 3/8 will measure as 4/8 spine to edge.
The No.11 for cutting hair (para corte cabello) measures 5/8 from tip to spine and the size of the Henckels marked as 5/8 appears to be the same as the No.11 "4/8"

What I don´t understand is this H Eicker Biedermeier which is stamped as 3/8 but measures 4/8:-
http://img287.imagevenue.com/gallery...armonicaDT.php

For that matter I have a NOS No.14 stamped as 7/8 which measures 8/8

It all depends on what convention of measurement the razor maker adopts! Confusing, eh?! Some measure from top of spine to edge of bevel (rare) while others measure from the flat of the spine (where the hollow grind meets the spine) to tip of bevel. To make things even more confusing there was also an old unit of measurement used for razors, which did not correlate exactly with imperial measurement, and gave rise to even more oddness!

Regards,
Neil

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

It all depends on what convention of measurement the razor maker adopts! Confusing, eh?! Some measure from top of spine to edge of bevel (rare) while others measure from the flat of the spine (where the hollow grind meets the spine) to tip of bevel. To make things even more confusing there was also an old unit of measurement used for razors, which did not correlate exactly with imperial measurement, and gave rise to even more oddness!

Regards,
Neil

Thanks Neil,
that makes things clearer.............or not
I will stick with point of spine to edge of bevel measurements as its less ambiguous to describe a razors width.
So the short answer to a long story is "yes Filarmonica and many other makers made both 3/8 and 4/8 razors, and both measurements can be found in the same razor!"

Question:-
is there a method of measurement to make a 6/8 into a 9/8 ???

Originally Posted by bonitomio

Thanks Neil,
that makes things clearer.............or not
I will stick with spine to bevel measurements as its less ambiguous to describe a razors width.
So the short answer to a long story is "yes Filarmonica and many other makers made both 3/8 and 4/8 razors, and both measurements can be found in the same razor!"

Question:-
is there a method of measurement to make a 6/8 into a 9/8 ???

Looking to sell some 6/8 razors on the bay ??

Originally Posted by earcutter

Looking to sell some 6/8 razors on the bay ??

LOL.
thought there might be a (tongue in cheek) shifty way of doubling the value of my collection

Guys, LOL, I can't prove either way, I don't have one. I'm just going on what I read and what I was told when I called and asked about 20 minutes ago. Phil said that was measured overall width from back of the spine to the edge of the edge. Me, I have no empirical knowledge of this size razor so I yield. I do know my Para Profesionales Novodur, NOS #14 is exactly 8/8. Still, I ain't buyin one to prove it one way or the other.
Bon, have a great day!!

Regards,

Howard

Edit: Spelling.

Originally Posted by bonitomio

Question:-
is there a method of measurement to make a 6/8 into a 9/8 ???

Yes. You have to oil the blade, then put it on top of a "grow bag" in the greenhouse. Do not leave it there too long though, or it will turn into a cleaver...

Regards
Neil

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

Yes. You have to oil the blade, then put it on top of a "grow bag" in the greenhouse. Do not leave it there too long though, or it will turn into a cleaver...

Regards
Neil

LOL
Lets keep this secret method on the hush hush, secret handshake and all that